The Liberal Democrats - all discussion here please

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

Am I imagining things, sure I saw a topic titled as above, but after spending a considerable amount of time constructing a response, when I pressed reply I received the message "cannot be found". Have I been dreaming?.

 

Anyhow, I have no time for the opinions of the little school boy looking Owen Jones at all. BUT on having a google with Chuka Umunna as the subject, one of the articles that came back was indeed by Jones. I was going to dismiss it immediately, but decided to give it a glance. Glad I did, I 100% agree (strewth) with Jones's views of Umunna.

 

Is Jones on the money here, I think so.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/14/chuka-umunna-labour-liberal-democrat-hypocrisy

 

Angel1.

[Lockdoctor 10]

12 hours ago, catmiss said:

Thoughts on Chuka Umunna’s defection to Liberal Democrat’s. I always thought that MPs, elected on a party manifesto, should face a bi election if they changed parties. When this MP  started Tiggers, Change/Uk he claimed the electorate voted for him not the party. Having secured a prominent position in the Lib Dem’s I wonder what those who voted for him think now. Personally I think he’s the worst example of the majority of self serving MPs 

I heard on the news last night that the seat in the General Election which Chuka won for Labour is a target seat in the next General Election for the Lib Dems.  The Lib Dems came a close second to Labour in that seat.  If there was a by-election now Chuka would almost certainly win that seat for the Lib Dems.  It is not rocket science to work out why Chuka has been keen to join the Lib Dems after the poor performance of  Change/UK which he helped to form in the recent European Elections.

 

I agree he is the worse example of a serving MP and will be the worse Lib Dem MP since Lembit Opik.

[Stoatwobbler 10]

5 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

I heard on the news last night that the seat in the General Election which Chuka won for Labour is a target seat in the next General Election for the Lib Dems.  The Lib Dems came a close second to Labour in that seat.  If there was a by-election now Chuka would almost certainly win that seat for the Lib Dems.  It is not rocket science to work out why Chuka has been keen to join the Lib Dems after the poor performance of  Change/UK which he helped to form in the recent European Elections.

Wrong. Results from the last general election

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streatham_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

Labour	Chuka Umunna	38,212	68.5	+15.5
	Conservative	Kim Caddy	11,927	21.4	-3.7
	Liberal Democrat	Alex Davies	3,611	6.5	-2.5
	Green	Nicole Griffiths	1,696	3.0	-5.8
	UKIP	Robert Stephenson	349	0.6	-2.6
Majority			26,285

Edited June 15, 2019 by Stoatwobbler

[Stoatwobbler 10]

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I agree he is the worse example of a serving MP and will be the worse Lib Dem MP since Lembit Opik

Also completely wrong. John Hemming was much worse before he was voted out. And many Liberal Democrats would quite like Jess Phillips, the Labour MP who replaced him to join them as well. 

 

Also, if you want worse sitting MP's then then Chuka Umunna there are many, many worse examples from Jared O'Mara to Priti Patel to Caroline Flint to Mark Francois to Chris Williamson to Dominic Raab. 

[Lockdoctor 10]

9 minutes ago, Stoatwobbler said:

Wrong. Results from the last general election

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streatham_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

Labour	Chuka Umunna	38,212	68.5	+15.5
	Conservative	Kim Caddy	11,927	21.4	-3.7
	Liberal Democrat	Alex Davies	3,611	6.5	-2.5
	Green	Nicole Griffiths	1,696	3.0	-5.8
	UKIP	Robert Stephenson	349	0.6	-2.6
Majority			26,285

Thank you for correcting me.  I obviously misunderstood what was being said on the news.

 

Chuka has no chance of winning a by-election or holding the seat as a Lib Dem.

Edited June 15, 2019 by Lockdoctor

[Stoatwobbler 10]

1 minute ago, Lockdoctor said:

Thank you for correcting me.  I obviously misunderstood what was being said on the news.

I'm afraid I don't always trust what they tell you on the news these days. 

 

Also worth noting that Streatham went very heavily for Remain in the 2016 referendum so if you don't like a Streatham MP standing up for what his constituents want then tough. 

[Lockdoctor 10]

1 minute ago, Stoatwobbler said:

I'm afraid I don't always trust what they tell you on the news these days. 

 

Also worth noting that Streatham went very heavily for Remain in the 2016 referendum so if you don't like a Streatham MP standing up for what his constituents want then tough. 

I think it was one of those press review slots on SKY or BBC that I was watching and they were discussing a Chuka newspaper article.  I should have checked the information for myself.

[alchresearch 213]

On 14/06/2019 at 13:38, Mister M said:

It reminds me of the awkward conversation that Cameron and Clegg had when they formed a coalition and had that press conference in the garden of No 10:
 

 

[alchresearch 213]

Brixworth (Daventry) result:

LDEM: 49.5% (+38.6)
CON: 37.3% (-28.2)
LAB: 13.2% (-10.5)

 

Liberal Democrat GAIN from Conservative.

[JamesR123 0]

I am excited about Lib Dems chances at the moment.

 

If the new Tory leader calls a snap election, the Lib Dems will do very very well.

 

Could even approach 100 seats!

 

However the moment could be lost if brexit happens before the next election.

[banjodeano 30]

4 minutes ago, JamesR123 said:

I am excited about Lib Dems chances at the moment.

 

If the new Tory leader calls a snap election, the Lib Dems will do very very well.

 

Could even approach 100 seats!

 

However the moment could be lost if brexit happens before the next election.

but i wonder if they will renegade on their pledges like they did the last time with the students? i dont think they will pick up any student votes again lol

[JamesR123 0]

9 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

but i wonder if they will renegade on their pledges like they did the last time with the students? i dont think they will pick up any student votes again lol

They didn't win power, they were the minority in a coalition.  So they had to do some bargaining.

 

I think they will pick up student votes.  They are very much pro-remain and are not linked to anti-semitism or Boris Johnson.