The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[ECCOnoob 1,032]

2 hours ago, banjodeano said:

Socialism..

Think you are overlooking that the public have already given their judgements on that.   The results are black and white on the cult that is corbynism.

 

Perhaps the old man could maybe start his own party.  Put his neck on the line and his hand in his pocket.  Let's see some of that courage which his deluded supporters insist he is filled with.  Let's see him standing there on his own to fully absorb  what the wider electorate really think about his policies and his performance -not just his cultish followers.   Perhaps then he might actually get the message - providing a court order doesn't finish him off first.

 

Anyone fancy a punt - I'm sure the bookies would be interested.

 

 

[Arnold_Lane 0]

4 hours ago, banjodeano said:

It was pretty much obvious that starmer and co were going to apologise on Labours behalf, anything to undermine the Corbyn movement...

Interesting post banjodeano.  Had you not seen in Tony's link that Corbyn is now being sued for saying:

 

“The party’s decision to apologise today and make substantial payments to former staff who sued the party in relation to last year’s Panorama programme is a political decision, not a legal one.

 

“Our legal advice was that the party had a strong defence, and the evidence in the leaked Labour report that is now the subject of an NEC inquiry led by Martin Forde QC strengthened concerns about the role played by some of those who took part in the programme.

 

“The decision to settle these claims in this way is disappointing, and risks giving credibility to misleading and inaccurate allegations about action taken to tackle anti-Semitism in the Labour Party in recent years.

 

“To give our members the answers and justice they deserve, the inquiry led by Martin Forde must now fully address the evidence the internal report uncovered of racism, sexism, factionalism and obstruction of Labour’s 2017 general election campaign.”

 

Remember when you asked me about three times if I'd read the report which Martin Forde is now investigating the leaking of?  The one with the executive summary that read:

 

This report thoroughly disproves any suggestion that antisemitism is not a problem in the Party, or that it is all a “smear” or a “witch-hunt”. The report’s findings prove the scale of the problem, and could help end the denialism amongst parts of the Party membership which has further hurt Jewish members and the Jewish community.

 

Recall that after I pointed that out to you, you admitted to not reading the whole thing because it is 860 pages long?  Remember how I said, fair enough, but the executive summary is on page 11!

 

Your post looks somewhat unwise.

 

[Pettytom 1]

5 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

The corbyn movement? What's that?

The one where he gets the whip removed, if he carries on as he is.

[banjodeano 31]

1 hour ago, Pettytom said:

The one where he gets the whip removed, if he carries on as he is.

Why should he get the whip removed exactly?

[Pettytom 1]

12 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Why should he get the whip removed exactly?

Why should he not.

 

I’d expect him to back the party leadership. If he doesn’t want to do that ...

[banjodeano 31]

9 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Why should he not.

 

I’d expect him to back the party leadership. If he doesn’t want to do that ...

Ah, answer a question with a question

[Pettytom 1]

That’s really not a question. It is a clear statement 

[banjodeano 31]

Just now, Pettytom said:

That’s really not a question. It is a clear statement 

So he should back the party leadership??? What like they did him?

Why should he not? looks like s question to me  Tom..

5 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

That’s really not a question. It is a clear statement 

Ok Tom, if you say it is..

[Pettytom 1]

1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

So he should back the party leadership??? What like they did him?

Why should he not? looks like s question to me  Tom..

He should back the leadership because that’s his job. Starmer was elected to lead the party, Corbyn is a back bencher. If he doesn’t want to do his job, there are many others who will do it much better than him.

 

It is put up, or shut up time for Corbyn. He’s either with us, or against us. He’s got a decision to make. Based upon his time as leader, we could be a while waiting for him to make up his mind.

[banjodeano 31]

14 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

He should back the leadership because that’s his job. Starmer was elected to lead the party, Corbyn is a back bencher. If he doesn’t want to do his job, there are many others who will do it much better than him.

 

It is put up, or shut up time for Corbyn. He’s either with us, or against us. He’s got a decision to make. Based upon his time as leader, we could be a while waiting for him to make up his mind.

Corbyn doesnt owe any loyalty to starmer, he was one of the MP's that stabbed the twice elected leader in the back? why didnt starmer show Corbyn any loyalty? ...starmer got elected by claiming  he was going to  unite the party, and as far as i am concerned he has done nothing of the sort, he is doing his best to rid the party of left leaning supporters, and what was all that nonsense about getting rid of RLB on trumped up charges?

[Pettytom 1]

17 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Corbyn doesnt owe any loyalty to starmer, he was one of the MP's that stabbed the twice elected leader in the back? why didnt starmer show Corbyn any loyalty? ...starmer got elected by claiming  he was going to  unite the party, and as far as i am concerned he has done nothing of the sort, he is doing his best to rid the party of left leaning supporters, and what was all that nonsense about getting rid of RLB on trumped up charges?

Poor old Deano. The world has moved on and you don’t seem to have noticed.

 

Momentum getting confused with inertia. Who’d have thought it.

[banjodeano 31]

2 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Poor old Deano. The world has moved on and you don’t seem to have noticed.

 

Momentum getting confused with inertia. Who’d have thought it.

Ridicule and put downs are not a great way to respond,  if you dont wish to debate then i am cool with that, just scroll past my post, but dont lower yourself to making it personal...