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In other news, its nice to see the Tories adopting labour policies and re nationalising the railways..

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14 hours ago, Longcol said:

Which analysis is this?

 

According to everything I've read the manifesto went down like a rat sandwich on the door. 

 

Note Labour had to win Tory marginals in Remain areas to get elected - but managed to scare off the middle ground .

Everybody I spoke to wanted increased investment in the NHS,  to raise the Minimum Wage and to nationalise the big six energy firms, the water industry, the Royal Mail, and the railways.

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1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

Everybody I spoke to wanted increased investment in the NHS,  to raise the Minimum Wage and to nationalise the big six energy firms, the water industry, the Royal Mail, and the railways.

And will your brexit loving Tory mates do any of this? Apart from semi nationalising a failing train company

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1 hour ago, banjodeano said:

In other news, its nice to see the Tories adopting labour policies and re nationalising the railways..

Not really though is it.

 

Taking back control of a failing operator mid contract is not what Labour proposed. 

 

Labour proposed to re-nationalise operators as they came to the end of their contracts regardless of performance.

 

During this parliamentary 5 year period there are 6 franchises out of 17 up for renewal so it would have hardly been a full re-nationalisation. 

 

so no, not really adopting a Labour policy especially after the Government took back running the line now operated by LNER before the 2019 election manifesto from the Labour party

 

And it doesn't really make a difference does it who might have thought of it, Labour cant implement it (or anything) for another 5 years, at least. 

Edited by sheffbag

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12 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

Using the Boris Johnson manual I see.

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What a surprise.   

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An internal report into Labour's worst election defeat since the Second World War absolved Mr Corbyn of responsibility and claimed Brexit played a “decisive role” in handing the Tories a majority. 

Keep burying your heads in the sand and ignoring us at your peril and enjoy ten years in opposition, not five.

Edited by alchresearch

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4 hours ago, alchresearch said:

What a surprise.   

Keep burying your heads in the sand and ignoring us at your peril and enjoy ten years in opposition, not five.

i would say the report was pretty accurate, the vote was about brexit not policies

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5 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

i would say the report was pretty accurate, the vote was about brexit not policies

Then remind me - how many Tory marginals in pro-remain seats did Labour win?

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51 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Then remind me - how many Tory marginals in pro-remain seats did Labour win?

"Then remind me - how many Tory (or anybody else's) seats did Labour win?" - I'll correct that for you. The answer is 1 - Putney. Just 1

Whereas the Tories took the likes of Stroud, Norwich and even took Kensington which voted over 67% to remain. So yeah, Brexit was the only thing that mattered and Jeremy is completely blame free

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11 hours ago, banjodeano said:

i would say the report was pretty accurate, the vote was about brexit not policies

It was banjo but you have to admit keeping Corbyn didn't help either.

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19 hours ago, banjodeano said:

i would say the report was pretty accurate, the vote was about brexit not policies

Who was in charge of their brexit stance? Who sat on the fence for over 2 years? Who tried to please remainers and leavers?

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