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5 hours ago, banjodeano said:

I also don't think he would have been a great leader, but good enough, he has his faults, but I believe is honesty and fair play would have been enough,  I believe he was the best choice in the last two elections, I think one of his downfalls was not being tough enough, he had people plotting his downfall, and then offered them a conciliatory position in the cabinet, which in turn proved to be a waste of time and took as a sign of weakness, but overall he was up to the job, his policies were right, and I believe history will prove this.

As for hate, I think that is the correct word, but then it may be just the circle of people I work with, but they really do not have a nice word for him,

I don’t like his politics but has a person I found him to be a honest likeable man. I think the majority of people who said they wouldn’t vote for him will have thought the same.

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49 minutes ago, jaffa1 said:

Get real , he went to more places  than the Cenotaph and at least he had the dignity  not to wear it there.

Just because you never saw news casts  and pictures with him wearing it doesn't  mean to say it didn't  happen.

You need to get real and provide some evidence. By the way, that would be some evidence of inappropriate wearing. Doing the equivalent of criticising Jeremy Corbyn for wearing old clothes whilst working on his allotment won't count.

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1 hour ago, altus said:

You need to get real and provide some evidence. By the way, that would be some evidence of inappropriate wearing. Doing the equivalent of criticising Jeremy Corbyn for wearing old clothes whilst working on his allotment won't count.

Jaffa has a thing about presentation. Mostly about female presentation, but I think that he extends that to male socialist presentation.

 

I haven’t seen his opinions about Boris’s “hairstyle”, or Pritti’s smirk.

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21 hours ago, banjodeano said:

to be perfectly honest, i think a lot of the traditional labour voters had already been lost, i think they had become  disillusioned with the party even before Corbyn came to power

That's usual though for most parties which are in power for a long time.    They just need a term or two in opposition before they bounce back.

 

But when centrist Labour voters were ready to come back and had forgiven Labour for their failings towards the end of their final term, there was no party for them to come back to.  

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Jess Philips to pull out.  To be honest I'm not surprised, she performed poorly at the Liverpool hustings, has admitted she's not PM material and today she's Tweeted a big rant about asylum seekers needing more help and support, which hasn't gone down well at all.

 

You've probably seen the "cat meme" everywhere. When I pictured her shouting at Boris at the dispatch box I thought of that.

 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51195059

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10 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

Jess Philips to pull out.  To be honest I'm not surprised, she performed poorly at the Liverpool hustings, has admitted she's not PM material and today she's Tweeted a big rant about asylum seekers needing more help and support, which hasn't gone down well at all.

 

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Says more about the publics attitude if helping "foreigners" does not go down well I'm afraid.

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It's barely a two horse race as it is, clearly she's realised the likelihood of an upset isn't going to materialise so why bother continuing.

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Its a shame Philips pulled out, i would have loved to see her go through to the final stage where  the members vote

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Me too, she was down to earth, but I don't think that's enough.

 

She said she wasn't the person to bring the party back together.  To be honest, nobody is at the moment.

 

I think Labour are too far down to road for reunification.  I hate Corbynites.  They hate us "Blairites".

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Labour chairman Ian Lavery calls for Keir Starmer to quit leadership election and support a woman

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-leadership-election-ian-lavery-keir-starmer-female-leader-1371977

 

How about we just get the best person for the job, or is it because everyone but RLB is not a Corbyn suckup?

 

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he is “not taking any lectures” from people who “have undermined Jeremy Corbyn”.

 

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2 hours ago, alchresearch said:

Me too, she was down to earth, but I don't think that's enough.

 

She said she wasn't the person to bring the party back together.  To be honest, nobody is at the moment.

 

I think Labour are too far down to road for reunification.  I hate Corbynites.  They hate us "Blairites".

I think she had no intention of going the full hog, I think it was more about getting her face out there and getting media attention more than anything else, I am sure she will be leaving politics for a media career in the non too distant future

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