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8 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Which is not surprising  having been constantly fed anti Corbyn propaganda

Lets face it, he was a joke from day one when he was added to the leader candidate list.

 

If the Tories were suggesting people sign up to Labour for £3 to vote for Corbyn, surely THAT should have set alarm bells ringing?

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38 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Which is not surprising  having been constantly fed anti Corbyn propaganda

That’s suggesting people can’t see through the hype. I’ve listened to others talking over many years about governments of all colours and it’s rare for them to say I’m going to vote for whoever because of what’s been said in the papers. They are living life and are not fooled easily by what the media say and take most of it with a pinch of salt.

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28 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

That’s suggesting people can’t see through the hype. I’ve listened to others talking over many years about governments of all colours and it’s rare for them to say I’m going to vote for whoever because of what’s been said in the papers. They are living life and are not fooled easily by what the media say and take most of it with a pinch of salt.

Well, I beg to disagree, I talk to people who vehemently dislike Corbyn, and when asked why dont have a clue, but pressed they usually say something like he's racist against jews or is a traitor...people are easily fooled,we have had nine years of tory government, and they have all but destroyed the county, and the working class are going to vote for more of the same?

1 hour ago, alchresearch said:

Lets face it, he was a joke from day one when he was added to the leader candidate list.

 

If the Tories were suggesting people sign up to Labour for £3 to vote for Corbyn, surely THAT should have set alarm bells ringing?

Yeah, more nonsense from the media, looks like they suckered you in tho..

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19 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Well, I beg to disagree, I talk to people who vehemently dislike Corbyn, and when asked why dont have a clue, but pressed they usually say something like he's racist against jews or is a traitor...people are easily fooled,we have had nine years of tory government, and they have all but destroyed the county, and the working class are going to vote for more of the same?

Yeah, more nonsense from the media, looks like they suckered you in tho..

I don’t know if you were alive in the 70s but that era makes today look positively peachy.

high unemployment high inflation like today a struggling NHS but back then  with no money to help make it better a social security system that was terrible.

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1 hour ago, hobinfoot said:

It’s not just the establishment who find the current Labour Party unacceptable but many of it’s traditional supporters.

Yes, that’s true.

 

Unfortunately in trying to please voters who are naturally politically right wing and socially conservative Labour is perpetually committed to being a poorer version of the Tories where nothing ever changes.

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22 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

I don’t know if you were alive in the 70s but that era makes today look positively peachy.

high unemployment high inflation like today a struggling NHS but back then  with no money to help make it better a social security system that was terrible.

I’ve been a voter since the 60s and to be honest,looking back I find it hard to differentiate on a personal level whichever party was in power.

I know that I have been fortunate in that I have never been out of work,never spent a night in hospital,own my own house and finished work with a final salary pension scheme.

My Socialist leanings are based on the belief that the state would provide a safety net in the event that I or others had misfortunes regarding health,employment,housing etc.

I would always hope that this is the case ,but 10 years of Tory austerity has done untold damage to our services and particularly to those who most need some help.

A majority Tory government,particularly this right wing lot would be disastrous for many people.

I think a hung Parliament is the best that I can hope for at the moment,to at least curb the Tories excesses.

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Isn't it known which papers are supporting which party though?

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Newspapers can support whoever the owners  wishes them to.

 

The broadcast media however are governed by strict rules which become even stricter during an election. I hear that at least two universities are collecting data on this election in particular. 

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7 hours ago, hobinfoot said:

We are in debt no doubt.  Labour under Corbyn and McDonnells policies will shove us deeper and deeper into the mire. And I’ve not heard anything about everything being rosy from any politicians. You can’t just borrow yourself out of debt simply because the more you borrow the more you owe and the deeper and deeper you sink.

Actually, you're quite wrong. You can borrow our way out of debt as long as you invest it in infrastructure and productivity. It's a well respected way of dealing with recession and hard times employed by other countries successfully. The world (and business) runs almost entirely on debt. The problem is it gives the major banks power and influence that they can abuse. 

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47 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Actually, you're quite wrong. You can borrow our way out of debt as long as you invest it in infrastructure and productivity. It's a well respected way of dealing with recession and hard times employed by other countries successfully. The world (and business) runs almost entirely on debt. The problem is it gives the major banks power and influence that they can abuse. 

We were bankrupt after the second world war and still built the NHS on borrowed money, 

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4 hours ago, melthebell said:

Ah mel, the Independant itself could be argued to be bias towards labour, it is generally left leaning, maybe even the Loughborough uni academics are too, like the Mirror, the Guardian, Channel 4, the BBC and much of the left leaning social media outlets..... the left will always claim the media is bias towards the right and vice versa, what are your own observations ?

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