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14 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Yes, we’ve seen all that endless times. We know that Corbyn and many on the left support the people of Palestine.

 

Now have you any real evidence that Corbyn is antisemitic?

 

Don’t you find it rather strange that someone who has spent his entire political life opposing racism and has a prouder record on it than 99% of MP’s in Parliament should suddenly turn out to have been antisemitic all the time and nobody knew?

 

I know that you and many others would deeply love Corbyn to be antisemitic but given the immense resources thrown at this matter, there is no evidence of anything other than he has made some unwise choices in some of the events that he has attended. 

I don't think that Corbyn is anti Semitic. He's certainly not a freind of Israel but thats not the same thing.

He is the Leader of a party that is deeply antisemitic though and that's the problem. The Met was once described as "institutionally racist" Id describe the LAbour Party in a similar manner, and certainly there are arguments now that the Tories are institutionally islamophobic.

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1 hour ago, alchresearch said:

Whether Corbyn is antisemitic or not is by-the-by. 

 

What matters is how this antisemitism has been allowed to blossom under his leadership.  There wasn't anything of this level when Blair or Brown were in power.

And here we go again, the people who have been ACCUSED is about.  .08% I wouldnt  actually call it an epedemic lol

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1 hour ago, banjodeano said:

And here we go again, the people who have been ACCUSED is about.  .08% I wouldnt  actually call it an epedemic lol

So how many was it when Blair was in charge?

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31 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

So how many was it when Blair was in charge?

No idea, but  people were not looking for it then, its now just a stick to beat Corbyn with. Corbyn who has fought racism all his life..does .08% sound like a lot to you? I suspect it is comparable to most parties if people bothered to look.

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1 hour ago, CaptainSwing said:

It seems obvious to me that the only sensible, moderate way out of the present situation, with the country still divided 50/50 and half the population having been propagandised into a savage fury, is to be more or less neutral about Brexit 

The problem with that strategy is that like it or not, the next General Election will be a Brexit election and any party not taking a position, will be marginalised by parties taking either a pro or anti-Brexit stance.

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You could have a chuckle at simpleton, Diane Abbott, until you realise that as Shadow Home Secretary & potential Home Secretary, she occupies the third most important position in government. 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1185391/PMQs-live-brexit-news-dominic-raab-diane-abbott-boris-johnson-prime-ministers-questions

 

Yes it's going over old ground but let's not forget her hypocritical stance of sending her son to a fee paying school, while rejecting the local comprehensive in her then catchment area & giving the perfectly parent excuse, (at the time), that she only wanted to provide the best educational opportunity for her son), but now wants to deny other parents the same opportunity. 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1445618/Abbott-says-sons-school-decision-is-indefensible.html

 

HYPOCRITE!

 

 

Edited by Baron99

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4 hours ago, Baron99 said:

You could have a chuckle at simpleton, Diane Abbott, until you realise that as Shadow Home Secretary & potential Home Secretary, she occupies the third most important position in government. 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1185391/PMQs-live-brexit-news-dominic-raab-diane-abbott-boris-johnson-prime-ministers-questions

 

Yes it's going over old ground but let's not forget her hypocritical stance of sending her son to a fee paying school, while rejecting the local comprehensive in her then catchment area & giving the perfectly parent excuse, (at the time), that she only wanted to provide the best educational opportunity for her son), but now wants to deny other parents the same opportunity. 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1445618/Abbott-says-sons-school-decision-is-indefensible.html

 

HYPOCRITE!

 

 

Wow....thanks for that information, i didnt know about that, you learn something new every day lol

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8 hours ago, Baron99 said:

You could have a chuckle at simpleton, Diane Abbott, until you realise that as Shadow Home Secretary & potential Home Secretary, she occupies the third most important position in government. 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1185391/PMQs-live-brexit-news-dominic-raab-diane-abbott-boris-johnson-prime-ministers-questions

 

Yes it's going over old ground but let's not forget her hypocritical stance of sending her son to a fee paying school, while rejecting the local comprehensive in her then catchment area & giving the perfectly parent excuse, (at the time), that she only wanted to provide the best educational opportunity for her son), but now wants to deny other parents the same opportunity. 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1445618/Abbott-says-sons-school-decision-is-indefensible.html

 

HYPOCRITE!

 

 

I didn't know all labour mps had to do what all the poor people do just to stay down with the kids :rolleyes:

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9 hours ago, Baron99 said:

You could have a chuckle at simpleton, Diane Abbott

I certainly did when she was humiliated yesterday!   Apologies for the link but its the first one I found with the video.

 

Bercow orders Diane Abbott to sit down as Labour MP forgets number of questions

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1185450/PMQs-diane-abbott-john-bercow-dominic-raab-prime-ministers-questions

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11 hours ago, Baron99 said:

You could have a chuckle at simpleton, Diane Abbott, until you realise that as Shadow Home Secretary & potential Home Secretary, she occupies the third most important position in government. 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1185391/PMQs-live-brexit-news-dominic-raab-diane-abbott-boris-johnson-prime-ministers-questions

 

Yes it's going over old ground but let's not forget her hypocritical stance of sending her son to a fee paying school, while rejecting the local comprehensive in her then catchment area & giving the perfectly parent excuse, (at the time), that she only wanted to provide the best educational opportunity for her son), but now wants to deny other parents the same opportunity. 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1445618/Abbott-says-sons-school-decision-is-indefensible.html

 

HYPOCRITE!

 

 

It's even worse than that. 

 

Not only did she give the hugely hypocritical answer that she wanted to do what was best for her son, but gave the rather racist response that 'West Indian mum's will go to the wall for their children'...  

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10 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

but gave the rather racist response that 'West Indian mum's will go to the wall for their children'...  

And that is racist, how?

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10 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

And that is racist, how?

I said rather racist, because whilst in of itself it isn't a racist remark, the implication is that mothers of other races wouldn't go for the wall for their children. If she didn't want to imply that, there was absolutely no need to bring race into at all. 

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