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On ‎28‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 20:42, Top Cats Hat said:

Of course it doesn't.

 

The why not is because the rule applies to voting for, standing against or supporting political organisations other than the Labour Party. Clearly opposing party policy is not included otherwise party policy could never change.

 

21 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Duty is a moral rather than a legal issue and MPs are allowed to vote with their conscience.

 

Let’s not forget that Catholic Labour MPs have always been allowed to vote against party policy on abortion (and previously gay rights.)

 

The only members who have an expectation of them to support policy are ministers or shadow ministers.

 

 

It's great that Labour  MPs are allowed to vote with the conscience, but ordinary Labour Party members aren't.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, bendix said:

 

 

 

It's great that Labour  MPs are allowed to vote with the conscience, but ordinary Labour Party members aren't.

 

 

It’s nice to see a party with members who have a conscience to vote with....

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13 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

It’s nice to see a party with members who have a conscience to vote with....

Do you not see the irony of your comment?  What's the point of having a conscience to vote with, if you get expelled for doing exactly that?

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15 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Has anyone told Corbyn that as things stand we could crash out of the EU without a deal at the end of October - while he still clings to his fantasy of a general election.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/30/soft-brexit-corbyn-labour-second-referendum-some-way-off-backs

That’s all he’s gone on about since last year, a general election.

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The question really is does he actually care if we crash out??

 

Probably plays into his hands really, no wonder he's sat on the fence over the issue.

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1 hour ago, geared said:

The question really is does he actually care if we crash out??

He should do.

 

He will struggle with funding his nationalisation programme at the best of times. Firefighting the effects of a no-deal Brexit will cost a new Labour Government even more money that it can’t afford.

 

And he won’t even have the luxury of throwing his hands in the air and saying ‘Nothing to do with me mate!’ as even the dumbest among us is in no doubt that Corbyn has supported Brexit from day one.

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6 hours ago, Mister M said:

He's toast

Hopefully

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On 30 May 2019 at 11:06, bendix said:

It's great that Labour  MPs are allowed to vote with the conscience, but ordinary Labour Party members aren't.

As clearly demonstrated yet again in yesterday's vote, wherein the 8 rebel Labour MPs managed to turn what should have been victory by the opposition  for preserving Parliament's sovereign prerogatives, into a defeat.

 

And so, do we hear de-selection noises today about Hoey, Mann, Barron, Campbell, Fitzpatrick, Flint, Hepburn and Stringer?

 

Do we **** :rolleyes:

 

The UK looks to be in more trouble than a pregnant nun, tbh.

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