The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[Shunter 0]

4 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

hahaha, brilliant...

 

But Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside Louise Ellman, who is also Jewish, called it "an absolutely disgraceful episode" and said it was "very clear the attacks" on Ms Berger had been down to anti-Semitism.

 

So now any criticism of her is automatically antisemitism because she is Jewish, no wonder this got pulled, everyone is scared to get labelled an anti Semite . this is all designed go curb free speech, Corbyn has been against racism all his life but is labelled antisemitic, the world has gone bonkers

 

It is laughable isn't it!!

[banjodeano 31]

1 minute ago, Shunter said:

It is laughable isn't it!!

not half, they know exactly what they are doing, only the goons fall for it tho

[Shunter 0]

4 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

not half, they know exactly what they are doing, only the goons fall for it tho

The whole sea of accusations fly from one faith, religion or creed, back and forth until one side is aggrieved that the opposite side may just have a point. It is at this point that the aggrieved realises that they have no argument, so resort to accusations of the aforementioned.

A bit like ping pong when a bat is removed during the game🏓

[Robin-H 11]

20 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

hahaha, brilliant...

 

But Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside Louise Ellman, who is also Jewish, called it "an absolutely disgraceful episode" and said it was "very clear the attacks" on Ms Berger had been down to anti-Semitism.

 

So now any criticism of her is automatically antisemitism because she is Jewish, no wonder this got pulled, everyone is scared to get labelled an anti Semite . this is all designed go curb free speech, Corbyn has been against racism all his life but is labelled antisemitic, the world has gone bonkers

 

Oh so you have evidence that none of the attacks against her were down to anti semitism!? Let’s see it then! 

 

I’ve read some of the messages she got. They seem pretty anti Semitic to me. 

 

Pretending there isn’t a problem and it’s all her fault because she dared to criticise the great leader is pretty shameful and perfectly illustrates the mess that Labour are in. 

 

It’s pretty simple. Criticising Corbyn isn’t a crime and someone shouldn’t be forced out for doing so. 

Edited February 8, 2019 by Robin-H

[banjodeano 31]

1 minute ago, Robin-H said:

Oh so you have evidence that none of the attacks against her were down to anti semitism!? Let’s see it then! 

 

I’ve read some of the messages she got. They seem pretty anti Semitic to me. 

 

Pretending there isn’t a problem and it’s all her fault because she dared to criticise the great leader is pretty shameful and perfectly illustrates the mess that Labour are in. 

 

ok i will play along with you...

Please show us your evidence !!!!!

 show us  what messages she has received, tell us  who they are from, and tell us if they are labour party members....

As the labour party have already stated on many  occasions, any party member sending racist or antisemitic messages will be removed from the party

[WiseOwl182 10]

43 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

 

 

So now any criticism of her is automatically antisemitism because she is Jewish, no wonder this got pulled, everyone is scared to get labelled an anti Semite . this is all designed go curb free speech, Corbyn has been against racism all his life but is labelled antisemitic, the world has gone bonkers

 

It's a bit like how any criticism of Diane Abbot is automatically labelled as racist, right?

[banjodeano 31]

5 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

It's a bit like how any criticism of Diane Abbot is automatically labelled as racist, right?

Nope...., i dont think the way Fiona Bruce treated her on QT was classed as racist, somebody may have said it was racist, but the vast majority of the comments i read just said it was bias against labour, nothing to do with racism...

sorry i cant agree with you on that one

[phil752 10]

1 hour ago, banjodeano said:

Nope...., i dont think the way Fiona Bruce treated her on QT was classed as racist, somebody may have said it was racist, but the vast majority of the comments i read just said it was bias against labour, nothing to do with racism...

sorry i cant agree with you on that one

i don't think Abbott is a racist , however she may use it  for a defense as to here incompetence

[Hotmale 1954 201]

On 07/02/2019 at 18:50, WiseOwl182 said:

Has the deficit increased or reduced under the Conservatives?

Maybe it has, maybe not. Either way, was the suffering caused to individuals, councils, charities etc worth it.

People before money every time for me.

I wouldn't believe any figures the Tories come up with anyhow.

They never say for instance 'we have millions working only 20 hours a week on 50p more than the minimum wage'

The millions who would probably be better off not working. 

Edited February 9, 2019 by Hotmale 1954

[the_bloke 17]

13 hours ago, banjodeano said:

ok i will play along with you...

Please show us your evidence !!!!!

 show us  what messages she has received, tell us  who they are from, and tell us if they are labour party members....

As the labour party have already stated on many  occasions, any party member sending racist or antisemitic messages will be removed from the party

Guido has already done that bit of detective work. 

 

https://order-order.com/2019/02/08/labour-member-leading-berger-deselection-attempt-israel-conspiracist-called-disruptive-zionist/

[WiseOwl182 10]

2 hours ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

Maybe it has, maybe not. Either way, was the suffering caused to individuals, councils, charities etc worth it.

People before money every time for me.

I wouldn't believe any figures the Tories come up with anyhow.

They never say for instance 'we have millions working only 20 hours a week on 50p more than the minimum wage'

The millions who would probably be better off not working. 

Suffering? The poor in this country live like kings compared to many countries around the world. "Austerity" in many areas meant rolling back spending to c2005 levels. Hardly Victorian times.

 

Spending more than you take from taxes is unsustainable.

[Hotmale 1954 201]

1 hour ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Suffering? The poor in this country live like kings compared to many countries around the world. "Austerity" in many areas meant rolling back spending to c2005 levels. Hardly Victorian times.

 

Spending more than you take from taxes is unsustainable.

Yep. Head just above water is well acceptable from  a Tory's point of view 'but no higher'.

As for other countries?

We're a thousand times richer than most countries in the world. 

There's enough money in the world to sort all their problems. Trouble is, around 10 people control the money and they want to sit on most of it.

Me, me, me, I, I, I.

I don't know how Tories manage to breathe, their heads are in the sand all the time.

Save money, lose lives.

Great leadership.

Edited February 9, 2019 by Hotmale 1954