The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[sheffbag 227]

15 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Commenting on the news, a Labour source said:

 

“Only three days into its existence and the Independent Group is already a shambles. They’re refusing to report who their donors are, they’ve registered as a private company to avoid doing so, and now there might be evidence of data theft. They embody everything that’s broken in the politics of the past.”

And from the pro labour website that you are referring to 

"We have become aware of attempts to access personal data held on the party’s systems by individuals who are not authorised to do so"

 

nowhere in the article does it say it is any of the 7 former MPs and the "independent group" are quoted as saying  "The Labour Party has not contacted The Independent Group concerning this issue. If the Labour Party has a specific allegation they should come forward."

 

so the proof that it is them is....where? 

 

[Top Cats Hat 10]

2 hours ago, sheffbag said:

so the proof that it is them is....where? 

Presumably the Labour Party IT people know exactly who tried to log in but chose not to name them.

[banjodeano 31]

2 hours ago, sheffbag said:

my point was that you were happy that they obtained seats in parliament under the Labour banner preventing the Conservatives from increasing their majority further. 

but that is probably down to them flying under a labour banner, not probably because of who they are...

in response i would say i am more happy that they have left than if they had stayed, so that somewhat disputes what you are saying..

and as i said, i would prefer one or two more to go as well..then we will have a team that is fighting the tories not themselves

[banjodeano 31]

George Galloway wades into the antisemitism argument on Sky TV, and in typical Galloway fashion gives it to them straight, he was saying he had not been invited onto Sky for years, i guess they will not be having him back for a while more...

 

 

[sheffbag 227]

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Presumably the Labour Party IT people know exactly who tried to log in but chose not to name them.

Then if it was a breach of data security and theft of data, they should make the accusation and/or give details to the police. Not post it in a vague quote and when its nowhere to be seen on the labour website

I'll believe it when its evidenced, until then its like a feature in Closer or Chat magazine " a source said"

[Top Cats Hat 10]

30 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

George Galloway wades into the antisemitism argument on Sky TV, and in typical Galloway fashion gives it to them straight, he was saying he had not been invited onto Sky for years, i guess they will not be having him back for a while more...

The guy is a complete knob with a massive ego but the most annoying thing about him is that he is almost always right.

 

When you look at all the effort that is expended in looking at Russian state interference in UK and US political affairs and yet virtually no one mentions the Israeli government's interference in UK domestic politics. Joan Ryan was caught bang to rights discussing a £1 million donation from the Israeli government and have we seen it on TV? When she joined the Independent Group on Tuesday there was absolutely no mention of it. Galloway is absolutely right when he says that if film existed of Jeremy Corbyn being offered money by the Russian government it would be shown endlessly on the major news programmes.

[banjodeano 31]

14 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

The guy is a complete knob with a massive ego but the most annoying thing about him is that he is almost always right.

 

When you look at all the effort that is expended in looking at Russian state interference in UK and US political affairs and yet virtually no one mentions the Israeli government's interference in UK domestic politics. Joan Ryan was caught bang to rights discussing a £1 million donation from the Israeli government and have we seen it on TV? When she joined the Independent Group on Tuesday there was absolutely no mention of it. Galloway is absolutely right when he says that if film existed of Jeremy Corbyn being offered money by the Russian government it would be shown endlessly on the major news programmes.

That is all true TCH, that is when you know that the media in this country is 100% bias, as you say, its all there, all on film, but they dont want to talk about it...and if it was Corbyn it would be played on a loop for the rest of Corbyn's life

[Hotmale 1954 201]

On 19/02/2019 at 18:57, WiseOwl182 said:

Awesome. What did Labour do to resolve all these things during their THIRTEEN YEARS in government? From memory, they bought a load of votes by creating benefit dependency, opened up the floodgates to EU immigration, started an illegal war, sold off the gold reserves and ran up a huge deficit to leave the Tories with at the end of it all.

Thirteen years?

They perpetrated Tory values under Tory Blair.

Thank God we didn't have Blair a minute longer than we actually had him.

Better than the Tories?

Yes, by 00000000000.0000000001 %

Edited February 21, 2019 by Hotmale 1954

[tinfoilhat 11]

3 minutes ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

They perpetrated Tory values under Tory Blair.

Then, perhaps, the country doesn't want a socialist government and never will, at least in the short term. And that's down to older voters who remember the closest we got to socialism in the 70s and now vote in large numbers for the Tories?

[Hotmale 1954 201]

26 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Then, perhaps, the country doesn't want a socialist government and never will, at least in the short term. And that's down to older voters who remember the closest we got to socialism in the 70s and now vote in large numbers for the Tories?

And such a great job of running the country (and right wing Governments in many other countries) have done.

Not one country in Europe is on a stable footing, they're all chasing the same pot of money and moving the dosh from pillar to post.

Competition, profit and 'growth' would eventually massacre society. Thankfully, the modern youths won't allow it to happen.

But that's a bit more long term, so, as it's not deemed serious at the moment, the Tories will carry on as before. Until the bitter end.

One day. money will eat itself. One day. money will he secondary to 'having a life'

 

Great interview with George Galloway by the way. A man who knows that most TV and Newspaper Companies fail to show or highlight anything against the Establishment.

For a truer picture, watch Channel 4 news, or RT coverage.

 

A Conservative vote in Sheffield?

If ever a vote was wasted, then this is it.

 

That said, my vote is also wasted, because in my lifetime, whilever idiots are contesting 'the middle ground' nothing will ever change.

Thankfully, today's youth will have a better chance of turning things round and I'm sure they'll achieve it quite soon.

Sadly, I don't think I'll be here to witness it.

 

 

Edited February 21, 2019 by Hotmale 1954

[Hotmale 1954 201]

I've just thought..........................................

George Galloway's interview will be greatly edited  and pasted all over the Media stating that he's in favour of the terrorist return to Britain.

It will be made to look like he's agreeing with everything the girl says and some reference will be made to Manchester Arena and Galloway's earlier expulsion.

 

It won't say for one minute that HE WAS RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

 

You mark my words, George is in for a right battering. and plenty who read The Sun and it's 'sister' Press will be slagging him from pillar to post tonight in the pub and tomorrow at work.

 

We need change and we need it fast.

The 'new' centre ground breakaway group is exactly the same as what we've had since 1979.

And since 1979, it's been pretty bad.

In fact. it's been worse than bad.    

Edited February 21, 2019 by Hotmale 1954

[Top Cats Hat 10]

1 hour ago, sheffbag said:

Then if it was a breach of data security and theft of data, they should make the accusation and/or give details to the police.

Don't be ridiculous.

 

And what are the police going to do?