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34 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Stranger things have happened. There are people on this forum who earn £16,000 a year who quite happily vote for Mother Theresa May.

Yes, very true.

They may have a few bob more than their neighbours and they think they qualify to be a tad 'superior'.

A mate of mine on £9 an hour wouldn't vote anything but Tory.

It's not the only subject he's a bit dim on.

Bless him, he'll never learn.

 

In 2016 the number of billionaires having the bulk of the money was 61.

Now, it's 26.

In twenty years it'll probably be 2, unless we find some way to stop them.

Can't some people see the danger of  this madness?!?!?!!

Edited by Hotmale 1954

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22 minutes ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

A mate of mine on £9 an hour wouldn't vote anything but Tory.

It's not the only subject he's a bit dim on.

Bless him, he'll never learn.

I don't know about now but certainly in the old days, switching your vote from Labour to  Tory was seen as part of social advancement, regardless of whether you would be better off or not (usually not), under a Conservative government.

 

It is a particularly English thing which I'm sure is rooted deeply in our class system and history as an imperial power.

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6 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

I don't know about now but certainly in the old days, switching your vote from Labour to  Tory was seen as part of social advancement, regardless of whether you would be better off or not (usually not), under a Conservative government.

 

It is a particularly English thing which I'm sure is rooted deeply in our class system and history as an imperial power.

It's exactly that.

It was commonly called 'two bob millionaires'.

If you smoked No 6 you voted Labour, if you smoked Embassy or Bensons it gave you a feeling of superiority.

Some read 'The Sun' and 'The Times' and voted Tory.

It made them feel all 'superior'  

Edited by Hotmale 1954

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7 minutes ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

It's exactly that.

It was commonly called 'two bob millionaires'.

If you smoked No 6 you voted Labour, if you smoked Embassy or Bensons it gave you a feeling of superiority.

Some read 'The Sun' and 'The Times' and voted Tory.

It made them feel all 'superior'  

Ironic really considering the former owner of said publications famously hated elitist snobbery and the whole concept of the British class system.

 

Maybe Labourites need to face facts about why their party has lost its appeal and stop blaming every tom dick and harry for its failures.   The world has moved on.  We are not small backward mining communities all living under the great supreme being of the trade unions anymore.  Labour need to drag themselves back into the 21st century. 

Edited by ECCOnoob

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It's also ironic how many people who claim to be socialist sneer at the views of people they claim to be helping.

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2 hours ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

I was careful to say 'I think' ...........................................

 

My thinking must be rubbish.

 

Typical Tory retort. Give 'em a quid each! 

 

131 billion dollars for infrastructure in Africa would improve the Continent a thousand fold, but you don't believe in  improving things for everyone do you?

You'd like Mr Africa to have 130 billion dollars and the filth to have what's left.

 

Enough said about your outlook then int it?

 

 

Most of the wealth held by billionaires is not liquid cash that they can just dish out readily. Its tied up as capital in businesses that generated that wealth in the first place. The same businesses that provide paid employment for hundreds of thousands of people working for them. Maybe you'd like them all out of a job and dish out a one-off £107 per African instead?

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9 hours ago, woodview said:

It's also ironic how many people who claim to be socialist sneer at the views of people they claim to be helping.

Thats not what being socialist means to me.

 

Your strawman attributing  a socialist with motivation they may not have, not to mention the sneering bit.

 

Noblesse Oblige  is more likely to be  a conservative thing. 

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49 minutes ago, Flanker7 said:

Thats not what being socialist means to me.

 

Your strawman attributing  a socialist with motivation they may not have, not to mention the sneering bit.

 

Noblesse Oblige  is more likely to be  a conservative thing. 

I never said that what being socialist means. It is quite the opposite.

What I said was, that there are quite a few posters on here, who claim to be socialist, look down their noses at the type of people they claim to want to help / represent. Very different things.

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9 minutes ago, woodview said:

I never said that what being socialist means. It is quite the opposite.

What I said was, that there are quite a few posters on here, who claim to be socialist, look down their noses at the type of people they claim to want to help / represent. Very different things.

No they only look down at the people who have the selfish me me me Tory attitude

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1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

No they only look down at the people who have the selfish me me me Tory attitude

All the posters on here? Really? I'll have to get a different set of glasses............

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15 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Football players on £400,000 a week.  Doubtful if these guys vote for St Jeremy.

 

Angel1.

Especially as he'll be earning it in Italy :) 

13 hours ago, Mister M said:

Stranger things have happened. There are people on this forum who earn £16,000 a year who quite happily vote for Mother Theresa May.

And there are people on this forum who earn £40K a year and vote Labour

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2 hours ago, sheffbag said:

Especially as he'll be earning it in Italy :) 

And there are people on this forum who earn £40K a year and vote Labour

Yes, we know. Forum Tories have lots of names for them: 'Liberal elite', 'champagne socialists', 'luvvies', 'Guardian readers'. :hihi:

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