The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[Top Cats Hat 10]

No poll represents everyone unless you poll 100% of voters.

 

Are you disputing that 65% of Labour voters voted remain simply because all of them weren't asked?

[Jonny5 10]

1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

That could have worked but given the Tories can't agree with each other (and Labour have similar albeit less deep divisiins) I think it would have just been more people round a bigger table shouting at each other!

I think what would have happened is everybody would have their say and then May would ignore it all and do what she had planned to do all along.

 

But it was absurd that she didn't have full cross party input on Brexit.

[alchresearch 214]

According to this site:

 

70% of Labour Constituencies Voted to Leave the EU

https://labourheartlands.com/labour-constituencies-voted-to-leave-the-eu/

 

A more balanced site:

 

 

https://fullfact.org/europe/did-majority-conservative-and-labour-constituencies-vote-leave-eu-referendum/

 

No matter how you try and dress it up, more Labour areas voted LEAVE than REMAIN - which goes at odds with their respective MPs.

Edited December 20, 2018 by alchresearch

[Top Cats Hat 10]

25 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

No matter how you try and dress it up, more Labour areas voted LEAVE than REMAIN - which goes at odds with their respective MPs.

The problem with the vague term 'areas' is that Labour areas are made up voters of all political persuasions.

 

As the vote was so close in many areas, a Labour constituency can return a Leave result even if the majority of Labour supporters vote remain and vice versa.

 

It is much more useful to actually ask individuals how they voted by means of a poll than trying to extrapolate how people may have voted based on their constituency result.

[janie48 97]

10 hours ago, melthebell said:

He's a politician, it's part of the job, they all lie

They probably do 'all lie' but in this case I don't think he did, despite what some of the lip-readers say. 

 

Anyway, I'm really not bothered about what he said now, because in view of far more important things the politicians should be dealing with, all this fuss in the media about what he said is really a non issue. 

[Anna B 1,414]

2 minutes ago, janie48 said:

They probably do 'all lie' but in this case I don't think he did, despite what some of the lip-readers say. 

 

Anyway, I'm really not bothered about what he said now, because in view of far more important things the politicians should be dealing with, all this fuss in the media about what he said is really a non issue. 

Well said, I couldn't agree more.

 

Instead let's talk about the 600 homeless rough sleepers who died last year thanks to Tory Austerity measures. 

[Robin-H 11]

5 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Well said, I couldn't agree more.

 

Instead let's talk about the 600 homeless rough sleepers who died last year thanks to Tory Austerity measures. 

People can talk about what they want thank you.

[Mister Gee 823]

7 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Well said, I couldn't agree more.

 

Instead let's talk about the 600 homeless rough sleepers who died last year thanks to Tory Austerity measures. 

Stop changing the subject Anna,  frivolous comments about Corbyn being scruffy and unintelligent only please!

 

 

[woodview 10]

28 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Well said, I couldn't agree more.

 

Instead let's talk about the 600 homeless rough sleepers who died last year thanks to Tory Austerity measures. 

A tragic figure, which clearly has more influences than a catchy 'Tory austerity' reason. Cuts probably influence the figures. Do you think a Labour government would drive the figure drastically lower? How specifically will they do it?

[Mister Gee 823]

1 minute ago, woodview said:

A tragic figure, which clearly has more influences than a catchy 'Tory austerity' reason. Cuts probably influence the figures. Do you think a Labour government would drive the figure drastically lower? How specifically will they do it?

What do you think is influencing the figures?

[woodview 10]

8 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

What do you think is influencing the figures?

Take a look at this on another thread

 

http://www.helpushelp.uk/blog/our-outreach-teams-out-on-the-streets-daily?fbclid=IwAR1fyN53Id93RLXAoucQFUoN3RLcgAVWZt3e6uwvHm0JgSgF76KXnFjmGio

 

Simply blaming the tories is silly. I'm not a tory and am an ex-labour voter, but just making comments like that isn't helpful to those at risk, or persuasive to others.

[janie48 97]

56 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Well said, I couldn't agree more.

 

Instead let's talk about the 600 homeless rough sleepers who died last year thanks to Tory Austerity measures. 

I was shocked and horrified when I heard those details that the Office of National Statistics has revealed. 

 

I would like to believe a Labour government would put an end to the growing worsening homeless situation the U K has been experiencing since 2010.

Whether they would deal with it successfully I really can't say, they certainly can't do any worse than this present government. 

Edited December 20, 2018 by janie48