The Labour Party. All discussion here please

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46 minutes ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

 

 You're quick to support people who stand shoulder to shoulder in times of conflict though. They are not inferiors then. They aren't Lefties, Communists, Scroungers or idle then. When it suits, they become Heroes.

It matters not who is piloting the ship, the ship, ultimately, has the same course, the same crew, and the same destination.

 

To say I'm disappointed with the British (English) Electorate is a huge understatement.

 

 

Those you mentioned would be Heroes, but the electorate's suspicion was that they didn't think Mr Corbyn was the ideal person to go round rattling a tin for them.

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Not the worst choice I suppose.  Jess, Clive or Yvette would get my vote though.

 

Long Bailey (aka Wrong Daily) would be a disaster. She's a Corbyn apologist and has had some dreadful interviews where she was torn apart.

 

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14 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

Not the worst choice I suppose.  Jess, Clive or Yvette would get my vote though.

 

Long Bailey (aka Wrong Daily) would be a disaster. She's a Corbyn apologist and has had some dreadful interviews where she was torn apart.

 

Adding to your post, the data comes from a YouGov poll of Labour party members. (The figures on that page are higher because they exclude the 12% of don't knows.)

 

Also notable is that after all the rounds where the less successful candidates are eliminated it ends up with Starmer on 61% and Long-Bailey on 39%.

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Sigh.  Another three months with Corbyn at the helm.

 

Labour leadership: NEC decides contest to last three months, with result announced Saturday 4 April

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/jan/06/labour-leadership-jess-phillips-clarifies-brexit-stance-saying-she-cant-see-party-backing-remain-at-next-election-live-news

 

The NEC says:

 

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The ballot will run from 21 February to 2 April, with the results announced on Saturday 4 April.

 

We are by far the largest political party in the UK with well over half a million members. We want as many of our members and supporters to take part, so it has been designed to be open, fair and democratic.

So why can we have a national election of millions of voters able to vote within one day and have the result within the next, yet the NEC needs to take weeks for just half a million?

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On 03/01/2020 at 15:03, alchresearch said:

Not the worst choice I suppose.  Jess, Clive or Yvette would get my vote though.

 

Long Bailey (aka Wrong Daily) would be a disaster. She's a Corbyn apologist and has had some dreadful interviews where she was torn apart.

 

I’m not a Labour voter but Lisa Nandy seems to be talking sense when I’ve heard her on tv. The other 2 off this list are Jess Phillips and Emily Thornberry if they go down the female route.

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18 hours ago, alchresearch said:

Sigh.  Another three months with Corbyn at the helm.

 

Labour leadership: NEC decides contest to last three months, with result announced Saturday 4 April

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/jan/06/labour-leadership-jess-phillips-clarifies-brexit-stance-saying-she-cant-see-party-backing-remain-at-next-election-live-news

 

The NEC says:

 

So why can we have a national election of millions of voters able to vote within one day and have the result within the next, yet the NEC needs to take weeks for just half a million?

Because it isn't actually taking weeks. It is taking a day to do the count. It is all postal voting so it takes time for deliveries. How long were postal votes given in the general election?

 

On 03/01/2020 at 15:03, alchresearch said:

Not the worst choice I suppose.  Jess, Clive or Yvette would get my vote though.

 

Long Bailey (aka Wrong Daily) would be a disaster. She's a Corbyn apologist and has had some dreadful interviews where she was torn apart.

 

Long-Bailey wasn't supposed to be the heir apparent to Corbyn. It was supposed to be Laura Pidcock until she lost her seat very unexpectedly. 

 

You need someone electable and out of that list, Starmer is a pretty obvious choice. 

Edited January 7, 2020 by Albert the Cat

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17 hours ago, West 77 said:

Corbyn should have resigned with immediate effect the day after the General Election and a caretaker leader put in place. There is no rush for a permanent new Labour leader.  None of the candidates have got the message regarding Brexit and all seem to be critical of Trump.  I can't see any of the candidates reducing the Tory Majority at the next General Election.  Boris is only going to get stronger and stronger.

I agree.  I think there are local elections coming up in a few months.  So its important that Labour start to win back people and work on increasing their popularity.

 

This won't happen with Corbyn still in charge.  He was humiliated at the polls and should have gone immediately like so many predecessors have done.

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On 06/01/2020 at 15:53, alchresearch said:

Sigh.  Another three months with Corbyn at the helm.

 

Labour leadership: NEC decides contest to last three months, with result announced Saturday 4 April

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/jan/06/labour-leadership-jess-phillips-clarifies-brexit-stance-saying-she-cant-see-party-backing-remain-at-next-election-live-news

 

The NEC says:

 

So why can we have a national election of millions of voters able to vote within one day and have the result within the next, yet the NEC needs to take weeks for just half a million?

Cos Abbott will be counting them?

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On 03/01/2020 at 12:10, Hotmale 1954 said:

I can maybe understand Lib Dems, Greens etc voting for Labour at times, or Labour people voting Lib Dem / Greens at times, but how the Hell can a (proper)Tory ever vote for Labour, and a (proper) Labour Supporter ever contemplate voting for the Conservatives?

Some Tories felt voting Tory because Boris Johnson is their leader too much to bare, even some Conservative MPs jumped ship.

 

 

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Erm............

 

Labour deputy leadership hopeful Rosena Allin-Khan reveals plans for ‘Ministry of Fabulosity’

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-deputy-leadership-dr-rosena-allinkhan-a4329026.html

 

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A Labour MP hoping to become the party’s next deputy leader has said she would like to create a “Ministry of Fabulosity” for “fabulous MPs”. 

 

Launching her bid today, the Tooting MP told ITV’s Acting Prime Minister podcast all about her “fabulous plans”.

 

Warning host Paul Brand not to "giggle" at the idea, she said: “It’s a real ministry, it will have to be dominated by fabulous MPs and come out with fabulous policies to shape the country.

 

“Some serious ones, but some lighter more entertaining ones about he we see ourselves and some of the things we can do as a nation to put a swing in our step."

 

Asked what kind of policies, she said: 'Political debate, there is room for traditional political debate, but sometimes there is room for a dance off. Sometimes you need to know how your political representatives can represent themselves in real life. We all love a boogie.'    

 

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Well at least she's trying to bring some humour into the whole procedure.

 

It's basically a two horse race is it not?  With Starmer currently holding a pretty significant lead.

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49 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

Erm............

 

Labour deputy leadership hopeful Rosena Allin-Khan reveals plans for ‘Ministry of Fabulosity’

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-deputy-leadership-dr-rosena-allinkhan-a4329026.html

 

 

Perhaps she's unaware that the original meaning of fabulous is something that pertains to "fables".