The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[banjodeano 31]

3 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

Banjodeano - do you think Rushanara Ali should step down? 

im sorry, i dont know who he/she is, do you think he /she should step down?

[Robin-H 11]

1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

im sorry, i dont know who he/she is, do you think he /she should step down?

I don't think she should no. But she is another trade envoy, like Ian Austin. 

[banjodeano 31]

1 minute ago, Robin-H said:

I don't think she should no. But she is another trade envoy, like Ian Austin. 

i dont really have any views on whether she should step down or not, i dont know anything about her

[Robin-H 11]

1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

i dont really have any views on whether she should step down or not, i dont know anything about her

But you must think that she's working for the Tories? You said earlier 'How can anyone be a labour MP and move over and work for the Tories', so presumably you don't think she should be a Labour MP anymore? 

[banjodeano 31]

Just now, Robin-H said:

But you must think that she's working for the Tories? You said earlier 'How can anyone be a labour MP and move over and work for the Tories', so presumably you don't think she should be a Labour MP anymore? 

like i said i dont have any views about her

[Robin-H 11]

1 hour ago, banjodeano said:

like i said i dont have any views about her

Well there we have it! 

 

So you accuse Austin of working for the Tories and not being a real Labour MP because he was a trade envoy, whereas another Labour MP who does the exact same thing is absolutely fine. The fact she does the exact same role as Austin is now apparently irrelevant!

 

Careful, someone might think that you don't really care at all that Austin was a trade envoy and you were just trying to find a stick to beat him with because he dared to criticised Corbyn..  

Edited November 8, 2019 by Robin-H

[lottiecass 17]

Banjo, I wonder if you think Corbyn will cost the party votes. The reason I ask is I have just been speaking to a bright 80 plus man,a lifelong socialist who will not be voting labour while Corbyn is leader. This isn't the first person to say the same to me.

[Hadron 10]

Mark Adams post on Facebook from a neighbours window. I was a labour support  but I have to agree

 

 

 

[Anna B 1,414]

If you think 'Corbyn is a danger to Britain' please take 5 minutes to read this, about how you've been brainwashed by the Establishment controlled media.

Then, if you are still in any doubt, take a look at today's Daily Mail...

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/think-corbyn-is-a-danger-to-britain-heres-how-youve-been-brainwashed/12/12/?fbclid=IwAR2WWlRzXF6XNFxWKnhSo7rzHFBjavGhyVRPUL4BnPYtcZNdc6pUg6IbFT

[banjodeano 31]

7 minutes ago, Anna B said:

If you think 'Corbyn is a danger to Britain' please take 5 minutes to read this, about how you've been brainwashed by the Establishment controlled media.

Then, if you are still in any doubt, take a look at today's Daily Mail...

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/think-corbyn-is-a-danger-to-britain-heres-how-youve-been-brainwashed/12/12/?fbclid=IwAR2WWlRzXF6XNFxWKnhSo7rzHFBjavGhyVRPUL4BnPYtcZNdc6pUg6IbFT

Anna, you know they wont read it, they can't deviate from what they have been spoon fed, how a man of peace who has fought racism all his life can be labelled antisemitic is beyond me, Goebbels would be amazed that the media and establishment have surpassed him

1 hour ago, lottiecass said:

Banjo, I wonder if you think Corbyn will cost the party votes. The reason I ask is I have just been speaking to a bright 80 plus man,a lifelong socialist who will not be voting labour while Corbyn is leader. This isn't the first person to say the same to me.

A lifelong socialist? And now we actually  have a socialist he wont vote for one? Did he think Blair was a socialist I wonder..

[banjodeano 31]

10 minutes ago, CaptainSwing said:

Even hardcore Tory journalist Peter Oborne knows that all this "Corbyn is anti-Semitic" stuff is pure propaganda BS:

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/tom-bower-book-dangerous-hero-jeremy-corbyn-labour-leader-truth

 

Oborne is a throwback to that long-vanished time when some Tories still had a modicum of integrity - when, of course, he's not himself doing propagandistic hack work for the Daily Mail!

 

He also gives a relatively balanced opinion on Labour's economic policies here:

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/debunking-many-myths-about-jeremy-corbyn

 

Also an analysis of how the media (including the BBC) have been co-opted to the Tory propaganda machine, specifically by becoming "stenographers-in-chief to anonymous Downing Street advisers":

 

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/british-journalists-have-become-part-of-johnsons-fake-news-machine/

a fair few people on here pull me down because i call all this antisemitism a load of old tosh, i get accused of being soft on antisemitism, whereas in fact the people who use the fake claims of antisemitism are the ones that are really doing all the harm, its like the story of the boy who cried wolf, after a while people switch off to it, and the real claims go unnoticed, the people who throw these claims  at me i just laugh at them, they are either going along with all this rubbish to score political points, or they must be very blinkered and deluded....

The Israeli minister Amy Goodman actually states that antisemitism is just a trick to silence criticism of Israel.

see here, straight from the horses mouth..

https://israelpalestinenews.org/israeli-minister-called-accusation-anti-semitism-trick-silence-criticism-israel-video/

[Richard 3 0]

Brilliant video well done Sir.