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29 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

And things just get worse.

Not really.

 

An anti-Labour journalist writes an article saying that the Labour Party uses a high profile legal firm.

 

Nothing to see here.

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Wikileaks is full of the release of confidential information from whistleblowers. Shame that the Labour Party feel the need to remind ex staff of the obligations of their Non Disclosure Agreements in advance of the Panorama anti-semitism documentary.

 

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" The dreams of the Patron Saint of the Islington Allotments Society of being the PM to usher in the socialist utopia are, as many of us have been saying, just dreams. " 

 

Goodness me, how I wish I had the nous to have written the above.   Just stunningly brilliant.

 

Angel1.

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33 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Goodness me, how I wish I had the nous to have written the above.   Just stunningly brilliant.

You set your standards very low!

 

Corbyn came within an ace of beating Theresa May in 2017 and if he wasn’t such an unapologetic Brexit supporter he would be odds on favourite to win the next one by some margin.

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16 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Not really.

 

An anti-Labour journalist writes an article saying that the Labour Party uses a high profile legal firm.

 

Nothing to see here.

"Nothing to see".  Its just yet another problem tearing Labour apart, along with the news that Trade unions unanimously demand Labour support second a Brexit vote.

 

Talk about having your head in the sand - you and Corbyn.  And that's why the party is only on 18%.

 

And Corbyn's solution to any unhappy Labour MPs or ones who don't sing his praises is to just replace them with his favourites instead.

 

Stephen Twigg , Stephen Pound, Kate Hoey, Jim Fitzpatrick, Sir Kevin Barron and Ronnie Campbell all to leave.

 

 

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14 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

 

Corbyn came within an ace of beating Theresa May in 2017 and if he wasn’t such an unapologetic Brexit supporter he would be odds on favourite to win the next one by some margin.

50 seats behind the Tories and 60 seats short of a majority is hardly "within an ace" - and the chances of him repeating that are pretty much zero.

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This is a good article..

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/09/tom-watson-weaken-labour-party-centrists-jeremy-corbyn?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR1rN3OBHo93aFTzHpAOmudniT4vm5Qr-U9KDj08jBvCddantDIQADjKsBU

If Tom Watson had guts, he would quit Labour. Instead he is weakening the party

Dawn Foster

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Why should he quit the party? Is he weakening it or is perhaps Momentum and Corbyn doing that. They've managed to blow the approval ratings back to before the 1982 suicide note manifesto - Watson never did anything like that...

 

All that froth from a party that once ruled for many years - wow....

 

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And Corbyn just made an announcment and he's STILL got a fencepost rammed firmly up his backside!

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47 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Corbyn has helmed labour since 2015. 

 

4 years on, having managed to kill his party's political goodwill stone cold dead in the face of the widest political open goal in living memory, if Corbyn had guts, he would return to political obscurity and let new blood try and mend the thing.

 

As things stand, with years of Brexit-themed polarising politics to go yet, Labour is as done for as the Tories. The next political duopoly is likely to be the Brexit Party and what is slowly emerging as a Remain alliance (LibDems, Greens, SNP collaborating to game the FPTP).

 

The Tories' internal clientelism killed rational politics for the national interest. Corbyn consistently gave them his unabashed blessing, instead of opposing them in the national interest in any way or form. Both have effectively promoted ever-deeper ideological division amongst the British electorate, and the nasty stuff that has and continues to emerge from it, lies at their combined feet.

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6 minutes ago, Obelix said:

And Corbyn just made an announcment and he's STILL got a fencepost rammed firmly up his backside!

So he's worked out all by himself that he would campaign for the same thing he campaigned for in the first referendum. It's just taken him 3 years to decide that he agrees with himself!! But it's all with conditions so he can change his mind later. 

 

The Leave - Remain split is now too far gone.  If he goes one way he alienates the other half.

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2 hours ago, Longcol said:

50 seats behind the Tories and 60 seats short of a majority is hardly "within an ace" - and the chances of him repeating that are pretty much zero.

If the SNP had not lost 10 seats to the Tories in 2017, Corbyn would probably have been able to form a coalition government with the Lib Dems and some kind of confidence and supply deal with the SNP.

 

Also many political analysts said at the time that the rate of swing from the Tories to Labour during the 2017 campaign was such that if the actual vote had been a week to ten days later Corbyn would have almost certainly have won an outright majority.

 

And no, he won’t repeat that so he has to go now.

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