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[Penistone999 10]

12 hours ago, blake said:

I kind of like Galloway too. He does at least have a sense of theatre, and even if he talks nonsense, at least he does it  with some style. Together with P.G. Wodehouse, and never having been a particular fan of TS Eliot,  all things considered, George Galloway is my favourite antisemite. 

 

I'm not  surprised if they're letting him back in together with Derek Hatton as it just confirms what everybody has now known for years - that left wing racist Jew haters like those two are warmly welcomed, in today's Jeremy Corbyn Labour party. 

Galloway and Corbin are two peas in a pod , both terrorist sympathisers .

[Mister Gee 811]

14 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Rubbish. Average living standards are far better today. You also missed out endless strikes and 3 day weeks. Rampant inflation. Higher  unemployment. Oh, and being the "basket case" economy of Europe. Luckily the Tories came in to clean up the mess (just like in 2010).

So the Tories are going to make us the "basket case" economy of Europe again then?

[Penistone999 10]

7 hours ago, Mister M said:

Derek Hatton has been suspended from Labour. Keep up.

What has George Galloway said that makes him a 'Jew hater'? Or is this another unsubstantiated smear.

Dont know Galloways view on Jews, but i can have a good guess seeing he is a supporter of the Palestine terrorists Hamas. 

[Guest makapaka]

9 minutes ago, Penistone999 said:

Dont know Galloways view on Jews, but i can have a good guess seeing he is a supporter of the Palestine terrorists Hamas. 

There is if course a difference between being anti Semetic and anti Zionist.

 

which one do you think they are and why?

[WiseOwl182 10]

28 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

So the Tories are going to make us the "basket case" economy of Europe again then?

No, they saved us in 1979 and 2010.

 

 

"The 1976 IMF Crisis was a financial crisis in the United Kingdom in 1976 which forced James Callaghan's Labour Party government to borrow $3.9 billion ($17.2 billion in2018) from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the largest loan ever to have been requested from the IMF."

Edited February 22, 2019 by WiseOwl182

[Guest makapaka]

12 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

No, they saved us in 1979 and 2010.

 

 

"The 1976 IMF Crisis was a financial crisis in the United Kingdom in 1976 which forced James Callaghan's Labour Party government to borrow $3.9 billion ($17.2 billion in2018) from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the largest loan ever to have been requested from the IMF."

What did they save us from in 2010?

[andyofborg 11]

6 minutes ago, makapaka said:

What did they save us from in 2010?

Nick Clegg

[blake 10]

21 hours ago, Mister M said:

 

What has George Galloway said that makes him a 'Jew hater'? Or is this another unsubstantiated smear.

1. The IHRA definition document includes as an example of anti-Semitism the making of demonizing allegations concerning the myth of a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institution.

 

Galloway, Amman 2009 : “There is a conspiracy in this region all right – but it’s an American-Israeli conspiracy".    on chemical weapons used against Syrian civilians Galloway said in 2013, without bothering to provide any evidence, of course : “If there has been use of chemical weapons, it was Al Qaeda who used the chemical weapons. Who gave Al Qaeda the chemical weapons? Here’s my theory: Israel gave them the chemical weapons. 

 

“the Zionists sent gunmen to the Maidan in Kiev to help a revolution…being done by outright Nazi anti-Semites…if these Nazis come to power in Kiev and they hate Jews so much, the remaining Ukrainian Jews will feel that they have to go and settle in Palestine.”  

 

2. IHRA definition also says that “anti-Semitic discrimination is the denial to Jews of opportunities or services available to others.”  

 

while he was MP there Galloway proclaimed that no Israelis should be allowed in Bradford saying, "We have declared Bradford an Israel-free zone.  We don't want any Israeli goods, we don't want any Israeli services, we don't want any Israeli academics coming to the university or the college, we don't even want any Israeli tourists to come to Bradford, even if any of them had thought of doing so. We reject this illegal, barbarous, savage state that calls itself Israel. 

 

Galloway has in the past shared platforms with Arabs who are Israeli citizens. Galloway has no problem with those kind of Israelis. What Galloway has a problem with, is not Israelis as a whole at all - it's Jews. 

[Mister M 1,594]

2 hours ago, blake said:

1. The IHRA definition document includes as an example of anti-Semitism the making of demonizing allegations concerning the myth of a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institution.

 

Galloway, Amman 2009 : “There is a conspiracy in this region all right – but it’s an American-Israeli conspiracy".    on chemical weapons used against Syrian civilians Galloway said in 2013, without bothering to provide any evidence, of course : “If there has been use of chemical weapons, it was Al Qaeda who used the chemical weapons. Who gave Al Qaeda the chemical weapons? Here’s my theory: Israel gave them the chemical weapons. 

 

“the Zionists sent gunmen to the Maidan in Kiev to help a revolution…being done by outright Nazi anti-Semites…if these Nazis come to power in Kiev and they hate Jews so much, the remaining Ukrainian Jews will feel that they have to go and settle in Palestine.”  

 

2. IHRA definition also says that “anti-Semitic discrimination is the denial to Jews of opportunities or services available to others.”  

 

while he was MP there Galloway proclaimed that no Israelis should be allowed in Bradford saying, "We have declared Bradford an Israel-free zone.  We don't want any Israeli goods, we don't want any Israeli services, we don't want any Israeli academics coming to the university or the college, we don't even want any Israeli tourists to come to Bradford, even if any of them had thought of doing so. We reject this illegal, barbarous, savage state that calls itself Israel. 

 

Galloway has in the past shared platforms with Arabs who are Israeli citizens. Galloway has no problem with those kind of Israelis. What Galloway has a problem with, is not Israelis as a whole at all - it's Jews. 

George Galloway shared a platform with a very prominent Jewish man, known to many as the Children's Laureate, Michael Rosen and they had an interesting debate about anti Semitism in the Labour Party.

Although the discussion is 6 months old it's uncanny how Rosen and Galloway predicted the breakaway of people like Chukka Umunna into a separate party. There are a couple of predictions made in the discussion that have since come true:

 

 

Edited February 23, 2019 by Mister M

[banjodeano 28]

This is very interesting...

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/shaun-lawson/enough-of-these-disgraceful-slurs-against-jeremy-corbyn

 

Even the author of the IHRA definition of anti-semitism has spoken against it.

[melthebell 862]

LOL

 

[Top Cats Hat 10]

7 hours ago, blake said:

Galloway has in the past shared platforms with Arabs who are Israeli citizens. Galloway has no problem with those kind of Israelis. What Galloway has a problem with, is not Israelis as a whole at all - it's Jews. 

You seem to be having real difficulty understanding the difference between the state of Israel and Jewish ethnicity.

 

They are not the same thing.