The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[tinfoilhat 11]

10 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Don't be ridiculous.

 

And what are the police going to do?

If there has been a theft of data, the Labour party are obligated to go the ICO and tell them or they'll get a big fine.

 

Unless there hasn't been a theft of data of course.

[banjodeano 31]

11 minutes ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

I've just thought..........................................

George Galloway's interview will be greatly edited  and pasted all over the Media stating that he's in favour of the terrorist return to Britain.

It will be made to look like he's agreeing with everything the girl says and some reference will be made to Manchester Arena and Galloway's earlier expulsion.

 

It won't say for one minute that HE WAS RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

 

You mark my words, George is in for a right battering. and plenty who read The Sun and it's 'sister' Press will be slagging him from pillar to post tonight in the pub and tomorrow at work.

 

We need change and we need it fast.

The 'new' centre ground breakaway group is exactly the same as what we've had since 1979.

And since 1979, it's been pretty bad.

In fact. it's been worse than bad.    

Damn right, they are being  re hashed, re packaged as something new, something refreshing and different, whilst most of the idiots i hear on the TV and radio dont even know that they stand for the same old same old, they  are even registered in Panama or somewhere, if that doesnt tell you all you need to know then nothing will, that speaks volumes about how they are the same old same old, wait until we find out who is funding them?

 at least Corbyn has given us something different, for the life of my i can never get my head round a labour MP joining forces with a Tory MP, they are poles apart, well, they would be if they were true Labour, a true socialist labour, not a wishy washy tory/labour..

 

[tinfoilhat 11]

24 minutes ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

And such a great job of running the country (and right wing Governments in many other countries) have done.

Not one country in Europe is on a stable footing, they're all chasing the same pot of money and moving the dosh from pillar to post.

Competition, profit and 'growth' would eventually massacre society. Thankfully, the modern youths won't allow it to happen.

But that's a bit more long term, so, as it's not deemed serious at the moment, the Tories will carry on as before. Until the bitter end.

One day. money will eat itself. One day. money will he secondary to 'having a life'

 

Great interview with George Galloway by the way. A man who knows that most TV and Newspaper Companies fail to show or highlight anything against the Establishment.

For a truer picture, watch Channel 4 news, or RT coverage.

 

A Conservative vote in Sheffield?

If ever a vote was wasted, then this is it.

 

That said, my vote is also wasted, because in my lifetime, whilever idiots are contesting 'the middle ground' nothing will ever change.

Thankfully, today's youth will have a better chance of turning things round and I'm sure they'll achieve it quite soon.

Sadly, I don't think I'll be here to witness it.

 

 

But clearly, people don't want a labour government. Look at the Tories. Just take 5 minutes to look at the halfwits who have  had ministerial roles over the past couple of years. Take another 5 minutes and cast your eyes over a decade of austerity. Then look at the leadership.

 

Then ask yourself why Labour hasn't won an election. Is it really because ed Miliband couldn't eat a bacon sandwich? Is it because corbyn is so prone to media gaffs (my god, I typed "prone" and media gaffs came up on it's own) and he is the very best the Labour party can come up with or is it because the country feels safest down the middle.

 

I say down the middle, brexit has tossed out the handbook. But still he can't get ahead in the polls. I'd be embarrassed and pass the torch on if you can't get ahead against the maybot and her merry team of incompetent ****wits.

 

This bunch of independents might rock the boat until the next election then theyre all out on their electoral ears. Then it's business as usual with two parties with internal divisions, the country going nowhere fast and Labour in opposition. Again.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

6 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

If there has been a theft of data, the Labour party are obligated to go the ICO and tell them or they'll get a big fine.

I believe that it was a login attempt rather than a data theft.

 

If JUST AS AN EXAMPLE it was Angela Smith* who needed to look at a list of constituency workers in Penistone and Stocksbridge and wanted to see if she still had access to the party database and tried to login, there is not a court in the land that would consider that a breach of data protection.

 

If however she had downloaded a list of party workers' names and addresses with a view to poaching them for the new Independence Group she would be committing an offence.

 

(*I'M NOT SAYING IT IS HER, JUST USING HER AS A LOCAL EXAMPLE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT HER CONSTITUENCY IS CALLED!!!) 

[Hotmale 1954 201]

59 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

But clearly, people don't want a labour government. Look at the Tories. Just take 5 minutes to look at the halfwits who have  had ministerial roles over the past couple of years. Take another 5 minutes and cast your eyes over a decade of austerity. Then look at the leadership.

 

Then ask yourself why Labour hasn't won an election. Is it really because ed Miliband couldn't eat a bacon sandwich? Is it because corbyn is so prone to media gaffs (my god, I typed "prone" and media gaffs came up on it's own) and he is the very best the Labour party can come up with or is it because the country feels safest down the middle.

 

I say down the middle, brexit has tossed out the handbook. But still he can't get ahead in the polls. I'd be embarrassed and pass the torch on if you can't get ahead against the maybot and her merry team of incompetent ****wits.

 

This bunch of independents might rock the boat until the next election then theyre all out on their electoral ears. Then it's business as usual with two parties with internal divisions, the country going nowhere fast and Labour in opposition. Again.

Sheffield and most of Yorkshire's voters have got it right.

It's the rest of 'em that keep voting Tory.

Us Yorkies have done more than our share.

It's up to the Suvverners and ten bob millionaires around the north to get their proper heads on and get the Tories out and make damn sure they stay out.

If people are pleased and satisfied with Britain's performance over the last 35 years, then God help us.

Thatcher chucked us off a cliff around 1984/85 and we're still falling.

Let's hope we don't hit the bottom.

Edited February 21, 2019 by Hotmale 1954

[altus 538]

2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

I believe that it was a login attempt rather than a data theft.

 

If JUST AS AN EXAMPLE it was Angela Smith* who needed to look at a list of constituency workers in Penistone and Stocksbridge and wanted to see if she still had access to the party database and tried to login, there is not a court in the land that would consider that a breach of data protection.

 

If however she had downloaded a list of party workers' names and addresses with a view to poaching them for the new Independence Group she would be committing an offence.

 

(*I'M NOT SAYING IT IS HER, JUST USING HER AS A LOCAL EXAMPLE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT HER CONSTITUENCY IS CALLED!!!) 

The Register have a good article on this - data controllers have a duty to keep data secure so Labour might be liable for a fine if there has been illegal access. Some of the comments are enlightening on all parties cavalier attitudes to data protection.

[ECCOnoob 1,020]

1 hour ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

Sheffield and most of Yorkshire's voters have got it right.

It's the rest of 'em that keep voting Tory.

Us Yorkies have done more than our share.

It's up to the Suvverners and ten bob millionaires around the north to get their proper heads on and get the Tories out and make damn sure they stay out.

If people are pleased and satisfied with Britain's performance over the last 35 years, then God help us.

Thatcher chucked us off a cliff around 1984/85 and we're still falling.

Let's hope we don't hit the bottom.

Horse crap.   Its backward thinking old fart "yorkies" still blaming Thatcher for anything and everything despite it being nearly 30 years after she left power who are dragging this area down to the bottom.

 

[Mossway 15]

Re Gerge Galloway,

I watched the interview on Sky News.

I disagree, usually, with most of what he says, but he was unequivocal that this Begum girl should be prosecuted.He did have reservations as to whether the revocation of citizenship would stand.

He’s a very powerful and persuasive advocate and it’s likely Labour will let him rejoin, given he’s been banned for c 12 years.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

23 minutes ago, altus said:

The Register have a good article on this - data controllers have a duty to keep data secure so Labour might be liable for a fine if there has been illegal access. Some of the comments are enlightening on all parties cavalier attitudes to data protection.

In industry they have been a lot more on it. 

 

I remember 20 years ago a friend of mine was being interviewed for a promotion in IT/Communications as her job was being phased out. Not getting the promotion meant her being redeployed to another section. She was called into the manager's off to be told that she had been 'close but no cigar'  and another candidate had been given the job. She was told to go straight to her new department to meet her new manager. She said that she needed to get some of her stuff from her office and was told 'You can't do that!' We will grab your stuff and bring it to you.'

 

Now I've heard of people being sacked from a job and asked to leave the premises immediately to prevent any leaving naughtiness but she was just moving to another section in the same department but was effectively denied access to any data to do with her old job literally from the moment she changed jobs.

 

[Robin-H 11]

8 minutes ago, Mossway said:

Re Gerge Galloway,

I watched the interview on Sky News.

I disagree, usually, with most of what he says, but he was unequivocal that this Begum girl should be prosecuted.He did have reservations as to whether the revocation of citizenship would stand.

He’s a very powerful and persuasive advocate and it’s likely Labour will let him rejoin, given he’s been banned for c 12 years.

I don't know, he comes across quite submissive here..

 

 

Edited February 21, 2019 by Robin-H

[Bob Arctor 11]

3 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

But clearly, people don't want a labour government. Look at the Tories. Just take 5 minutes to look at the halfwits who have  had ministerial roles over the past couple of years. Take another 5 minutes and cast your eyes over a decade of austerity. Then look at the leadership.

 

Then ask yourself why Labour hasn't won an election. Is it really because ed Miliband couldn't eat a bacon sandwich? Is it because corbyn is so prone to media gaffs (my god, I typed "prone" and media gaffs came up on it's own) and he is the very best the Labour party can come up with or is it because the country feels safest down the middle.

 

I say down the middle, brexit has tossed out the handbook. But still he can't get ahead in the polls. I'd be embarrassed and pass the torch on if you can't get ahead against the maybot and her merry team of incompetent ****wits.

 

This bunch of independents might rock the boat until the next election then theyre all out on their electoral ears. Then it's business as usual with two parties with internal divisions, the country going nowhere fast and Labour in opposition. Again.

The problem is, and I think you are probably with me on this, that the global economic system has become more volatile and will continue to become more so as climate change accelerates. Centrists will be unable to deal with the unfolding crises, as they are only able to take timid steps. The political future belongs to radicals because they will be prepared to take the radical measures needed to respond to crisis. Ultimately, people will realise this, but almost certainly after it's too late.

Edited February 21, 2019 by Bob Arctor

[Top Cats Hat 10]

The paranoia in the Labour Party is frightening.

 

I've just watched an interview with Jess Phillips on Channel Four News and she mentioned the 'Palestine Lives' tweet in response to the resignation of Luciana Berger. She described it as an example of 'appalling antisemitism'.

 

Now I like Jess Phillips and the Labour Party could do with more feisty working class women like her but really Jess? Antisemitic to tweet in support of Palestine when a former Director of Labour Friends of Israel leaves your party?

 

Get a grip lass. You are better than that! 😡