The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[alchresearch 214]

19 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

I'm not sure that quoting from posts on a facebook page (or twitter for that matter) helps your argument.

What "argument"?  I'm not arguing for or against Hatton.  Just pointing out how yesterday people were up in arms at Berger being too "tory lite" for the people of the city, yet Hatton is too far left.

[melthebell 863]

Corbyn speaking about manufacturing

 

[Robin-H 11]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

'Corbyn's Secret Link To Pregnant Jewish MP's Tormentor' - The 2" front page headline in this week's Sunday Mail.

 

This sort of thing (and far worse) on a Daily basis. It'd be funny if it wasn't so desperate don't you think?

Especially when considering it's the the Conservatives who actually wield the power at the moment, and are making a total hash of it. Hardly a word about them and their many, multiple failings.

 

(PS. Today's 2" front page headline: 'Leader who's lost the plot' and a full page picture of Corbyn carrying veg on his way home from his allotment...

Relentless persecution.

Might be a good idea to report things like what Mrs May's been up to.)

 

Yes, how dare a newspaper report on one of the biggest political upheavals to the Labour Party in a generation. 

[Hotmale 1954 201]

I've changed my mind totally over the last couple of days.

I think the Tories have done a fantastic job since 1979.

In 2019 we have almost full employment. The wages are better than they have ever been. I now trip over a Policeperson on almost every street corner almost every 8 years. The number of homeless people doesn't raise cause for concern. (There are none at all in my area) The wage gap has risen quite fairly over the last 40 years. Companies are making massive profits year on year. The drug and homeless problem has been all but eradicated. There's a new Billionaire created every 2 days. They don't create or manufacture anything useful, but they're raking it in, so what the Hell? It's great for our economy and also the 'Rich list' entries that we can flaunt all over the World.

Foreign car makers are moving out in their droves so that we can start building fine, solid British cars like wot we yoost too. Manufacturing is booming. Order books are now back to 1960's levels. The crime rate is so low that we now only need 10 Police personnel in Sheffield. The parks and gardens run by the Council are all in pristine condition. The roads are swept every 10 years to reduce the chances of windscreen damage. Private housing rents are very reasonable. Some dwellings only cost 80% of  the 'real' average wage, but I thinks plans are in place to raise that, so Landlords will, at last, be able to break even. Very reasonable parking charges are in place to guarantee a bustling City centre. The Pub Companies rents and other charges are so reasonable that only 8 pubs a week are closing (compared with only 8 a week last year, and only 8 a week the year before that)

Diesel fuel has remained very cheap for the motorist. It's only 10p a Litre more than petrol now. Praise the Government for their considered input.

The local High Street is bustling with Vape shops and Nail and Beauty boutiques.

If the recently made redundant hadn't been able to acquire these badly needed services, I don't know what we'd have done. Our local shopping street has been swamped with take away shops. Another Tory success story. Before they moved in, we had local people running Greengrocery shops, butchers shops, florists and that kind of thing. Thank God the large Supermarkets moved in and trashed these unknown tiddlers and confined them to the bin. Despite local protests, the Council did the right thing and allowed the residents to be trampled on by the big national companies. The correct decision in my opinion.

So, as you can see, the people who matter are doing a lot better than the minnows, and for that, we should be eternally grateful to this Government for guiding us in the right way for 40 years.

Everybody's happy, prosperous, well fed, well clothed (and most of the waged workers will probably be on holiday in the Seychelles as I speak)

What do you mean you haven't been the the Seychelles?     

[Top Cats Hat 10]

14 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

Yes, how dare a newspaper report on one of the biggest political upheavals to the Labour Party in a generation. 

To be fair, stories like this do indicate that Corbyn is still seen as a threat to entrenched vested interests.

[Robin-H 11]

16 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

To be fair, stories like this do indicate that Corbyn is still seen as a threat to entrenched vested interests.

So you think newspapers shouldn't have reported such a momentous occasion.? That would be rather odd... 

[banjodeano 31]

Anyone notice how there was a big uproar which went on for days about when Corbyn was supposedly called  May a stupid woman, but only yesterday when Angela Smith was talking about racism refereed to certain people as having a dark tinge to them......well, our media is not really bothered about it because it suits their agenda to downplay it

[Robin-H 11]

1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

Anyone notice how there was a big uproar which went on for days about when Corbyn was supposedly called  May a stupid woman, but only yesterday when Angela Smith was talking about racism refereed to certain people as having a dark tinge to them......well, our media is not really bothered about it because it suits their agenda to downplay it

It was in the media. Unlike Corbyn she admitted what she said and almost immediately apologised. 

 

If Corbyn had done that, it would have been a similar non story. Instead, Corbyn claimed he didn't say it, despite video evidence which strongly suggested he did. 

[banjodeano 31]

6 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

It was in the media. Unlike Corbyn she admitted what she said and almost immediately apologised. 

 

If Corbyn had done that, it would have been a similar non story. Instead, Corbyn claimed he didn't say it, despite video evidence which strongly suggested he did. 

i didnt say it wasnt in the media, but lets wait and see if they spend a week monotonously going over it..

by the way Corbyn never had anything  to apologise for, evidence says he didnt say stupid woman

[Robin-H 11]

Just now, banjodeano said:

i didnt say it wasnt in the media, but lets wait and see if they spend a week monotonously going over it..

by the way Corbyn never had anything  to apologise for, evidence says he didnt say stupid woman

As I've just explained the reason why the media kept the story going is because of the refusal from Corbyn to apologise and thus draw a line under it. 

 

I'm not going to reopen the argument about what Corbyn said. I think the video evidence speaks for itself, but I don't really care. As I said at the time, I don't see any problem at all with calling Theresa May a stupid woman. She is a woman, and Corbyn think she is stupid. He should have just said 'Yeah, I think she is a stupid woman. So what' and let the whole thing move on. 

[banjodeano 31]

Just now, Robin-H said:

As I've just explained the reason why the media kept the story going is because of the refusal from Corbyn to apologise and thus draw a line under it. 

 

I'm not going to reopen the argument about what Corbyn said. I think the video evidence speaks for itself, but I don't really care. As I said at the time, I don't see any problem at all with calling Theresa May a stupid woman. She is a woman, and Corbyn think she is stupid. He should have just said 'Yeah, I think she is a stupid woman. So what' and let the whole thing move on. 

Yeah we know you dont...

But as I just explained to you, he had nothing to apologise for...evidence does speak for itself, thanks for reminding us all

[melthebell 863]

1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

Yeah we know you dont...

But as I just explained to you, he had nothing to apologise for...evidence does speak for itself, thanks for reminding us all

do you wash his underpants for him too?