The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[banjodeano 28]

3 minutes ago, Broakham said:

There is no centre ground party in the UK. UKIP have lurched into fascism, Labour have lurched into communism, Scots Nats are a minority interest single issue party, Tories are right of centre and Lib Dems are left of centre socialists with a superiority complex.

do you even know what communism is??

[Broakham 10]

4 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

do you even know what communism is??

Yes, but if you are unsure you could always google it.

[banjodeano 28]

1 minute ago, Broakham said:

Yes, but if you are unsure you could always google it.

great....so  you can  explain how the labour party are now communists then?

[Top Cats Hat 10]

4 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

great....so  you can  explain how the labour party are now communists then?

I think his comment says more about his political persuasion than that of the Labour Party! 😱

[WiseOwl182 10]

5 hours ago, banjodeano said:

Thats terrible, not having the same views as ten Years ago..I dont know anyone else who changes his mind lol

Jezza changes his opinion based on who is audience at the time is. He'll do anything to get a sniff of power. No principles at all. A new kind of politics, that's very similar to the old kind.

[Mister M 1,594]

52 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Jezza changes his opinion based on who is audience at the time is. He'll do anything to get a sniff of power. No principles at all. A new kind of politics, that's very similar to the old kind.

Really, I thought that one of the criticisms levelled against him in the gutter press is that he doggedly sticks to ideas from the 1970s. But I'm glad that you've found another stick to beat him with.

After all, it saves you having to consider the lamentable Conservative Government we have now - who have been held in 'contempt of Parliament'; where the threat of martial law and  the Royal Family being moved is being spoken about. 

All delivered by wibbly wobbly Wendy and gurning facial expressions. 

 

Edited February 5, 2019 by Mister M

[Hotmale 1954 201]

11 hours ago, geared said:

 

because when we drop out of the EU we also drop out of it's free trade area??

 

This should not come as a shock to anyone, it was very clear this would happen, we will not be in the club so therefore we cannot have free trade, not until we negotiate a separate FTA.

It's not big business getting it's nose wet, the tariffs are set and collected by the Government.

 

I know several people in academic research who have already found money for projects disappear as it was from the EU, thats them out of a job as well as the various people they would have employed.

 

Many councils are worried about budget shortfalls due to the loss of access to EU grants for many projects.

 

Jaguar, Nissan and Airbus have all signalled loss of jobs or loss of future investment and jobs linked to Brexit.

Various city and financial jobs have been moved to the continent from our country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nail on the head.

European money, lots of which came from us in the first place. It's almost criminal how we give billions to the EU.

When we leave the EU, how much of that billions will the Tories invest in the NHS and your academic projects?

I'll tell you. Very, very little.

It's not the EU we want or need, it's proper leadership by a proper Government. The Tories have had 40 years. It's been a poor 40 years.

It's time for a change.

 

[Top Cats Hat 10]

3 hours ago, Broakham said:

Labour have lurched into communism, 

Do you have a cousin in america?

 

Some guy on Newsnight has just made a similar dumabass statement that the Democrats are being pulled to the extreme left of american politics loll

[Hotmale 1954 201]

If all we do is contest the centre ground, nothing will ever change.

Don't people realise this?

We have to move to the right or the left. Thankfully, Corbyn was elected by moving significantly to the left. The Tories have teetered to the left to try to recover their slide. I hope to God the Electorate don't fall for it, but history tells me they will. 

[Mister M 1,594]

2 minutes ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

If all we do is contest the centre ground, nothing will ever change.

Don't people realise this?

We have to move to the right or the left. Thankfully, Corbyn was elected by moving significantly to the left. The Tories have teetered to the left to try to recover their slide. I hope to God the Electorate don't fall for it, but history tells me they will. 

Some people don't want change. If I were Richard Branson or the Duke of Westminster I probably wouldn't either. 

[WiseOwl182 10]

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

Really, I thought that one of the criticisms levelled against him in the gutter press is that he doggedly sticks to ideas from the 1970s. But I'm glad that you've found another stick to beat him with.

After all, it saves you having to consider the lamentable Conservative Government we have now - who have been held in 'contempt of Parliament'; where the threat of martial law and  the Royal Family being moved is being spoken about. 

All delivered by wibbly wobbly Wendy and gurning facial expressions. 

 

It's not a competition to be the worst. Corbyn is a blatant chameleon. Even on Brexit, he keeps his options open, so he can appear Eurosceptic to working class northern voters, and a Remainer to the champagne socialists of Islington.

1 minute ago, Mister M said:

Some people don't want change. If I were Richard Branson or the Duke of Westminster I probably wouldn't either. 

Neither would I. We've never had it so good.

[Mister M 1,594]

10 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

It's not a competition to be the worst. Corbyn is a blatant chameleon. Even on Brexit, he keeps his options open, so he can appear Eurosceptic to working class northern voters, and a Remainer to the champagne socialists of Islington.

Neither would I. We've never had it so good.

Oh dear, you must be easily pleased. Next you'll be telling us that Chris Grayling should be Parliamentarian of the Year.