The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[Top Cats Hat 10]

2 hours ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

The people are realising what the end game of the EC 'could' be and are gearing up to prevent it with all their heart and soul.

Really?

 

Maybe in your crackpot facebook groups but in the real world people are starting to become seriously worried about what this mess is going to do for them and their families.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

Just watched Saint Jeremy on the news, ok it was 10 years ago, but he was opposed to the EU and said so, vehemently.

 

The Leopard  does change its spots then, or maybe not.

 

Angel1.

[Robin-H 11]

1 hour ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Just watched Saint Jeremy on the news, ok it was 10 years ago, but he was opposed to the EU and said so, vehemently.

 

The Leopard  does change its spots then, or maybe not.

 

Angel1.

Not just the EU, but the idea of having a second referendum (the Irish referendum on the Lisbon Treaty). I posted a link to the video a few posts ago. 

[banjodeano 31]

1 hour ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Just watched Saint Jeremy on the news, ok it was 10 years ago, but he was opposed to the EU and said so, vehemently.

 

The Leopard  does change its spots then, or maybe not.

 

Angel1.

Thats terrible, not having the same views as ten Years ago..I dont know anyone else who changes his mind lol

[melthebell 863]

3 hours ago, Robin-H said:

I wonder if this will be in the impetus some Labour remain MPs need to form a breakaway party..

 

https://www.theredroar.com/2019/02/exclusive-corbyn-branded-eu-military-frankenstein-and-trashed-second-irish-referendum-in-unearthed-footage/

 

 

 

On 03/02/2019 at 11:41, andyofborg said:

Why can't we have someone like Blair again.

 

He is the most successful election winner the party ever had. Admitedly he went a bit potty at the end but that happens to all politicians. The trick is to pension them off before they get too mad.

 

The answer of a failed left wing manifesto, isnt a more left wing manifesto in the hope you will reach some sort of place where you are so left wing people will vote for you.

 

Labour tried that in the 80s and that wasn't really a great success. 

 

Whether you like it or not, this is a pragmatically centre-right country. That doesn't mean they wont support a centre left government because they will and do so with pleasure but they need a reason too.

 

 

 

 

You mean like this?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/02/rebel-labour-mps-set-to-quit-party-and-form-centre-group

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

2 hours ago, melthebell said:

 

You mean like this?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/02/rebel-labour-mps-set-to-quit-party-and-form-centre-group

I imagine if this mythical centre ground Party is ever formed, May would then be on safe ground if she called for another GE. This centre ground Party splitting the votes, in the Tory's benefit I would say.

 

Angel1.

[melthebell 863]

1 minute ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

I imagine if this mythical centre ground Party is ever formed, May would then be on safe ground if she called for another GE. This centre ground Party splitting the votes, in the Tory's benefit I would say.

 

Angel1.

depends dun it?

 

How many support the labour party but dont like it veering again into socialism? Interesting to see if it does, i'd also say the tories are far from the centre ground they are following pretty right wing doctrine

[geared 305]

We already have a centre ground party though, but no-body likes the Lib Dems?

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

12 minutes ago, geared said:

We already have a centre ground party though, but no-body likes the Lib Dems?

Clegg destroyed them, simple as that. Although Cable is not doing a bad job of following him.

 

Angel1

[Top Cats Hat 10]

19 minutes ago, melthebell said:

How many support the labour party but dont like it veering again into socialism? 

When did they do this before?

 

I must have missed it! 😱

[melthebell 863]

6 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

When did they do this before?

 

I must have missed it!

its been closer to socialism plenty of times, the only time its been closer to the tories was under blair

[Broakham 10]

2 hours ago, geared said:

We already have a centre ground party though, but no-body likes the Lib Dems?

There is no centre ground party in the UK. UKIP have lurched into fascism, Labour have lurched into communism, Scots Nats are a minority interest single issue party, Tories are right of centre and Lib Dems are left of centre socialists with a superiority complex.