The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[melthebell 862]

Here you go, dated 10th and 11th May and in Labour's friend The Guardian.

I'm sorry that you don't know how to Google or find your way around the Guardian website (tip - Google "The Guardian", click the link, click on UK POLITICS)

 

Labour backbenchers urge Jeremy Corbyn to back remaining in EEA

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/11/labour-backbenchers-urge-jeremy-corbyn-to-back-remaining-in-eea

 

 

Labour MPs back antisemitism measures rejected by Corbyn

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-mps-back-antisemitism-measures-rejected-by-corbyn

 

And you can have these additional ones for free:

 

Labour accused of 'bulldozing' Lewisham members in byelection

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-accused-of-bulldozing-lewisham-members-in-byelection

 

Andy Burnham says Labour hounded Debbie Abrahams out

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/andy-burnham-says-labour-hounded-debbie-abrahams-out

 

Oh, and nice one at ignoring all the other points in my post. Or is that because you can't argue against them?

 

but those are MSM links

 

lol

[Mister Gee 812]

Here you go, dated 10th and 11th May and in Labour's friend The Guardian.

I'm sorry that you don't know how to Google or find your way around the Guardian website (tip - Google "The Guardian", click the link, click on UK POLITICS)

 

Labour backbenchers urge Jeremy Corbyn to back remaining in EEA

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/11/labour-backbenchers-urge-jeremy-corbyn-to-back-remaining-in-eea

 

 

Labour MPs back antisemitism measures rejected by Corbyn

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-mps-back-antisemitism-measures-rejected-by-corbyn

 

And you can have these additional ones for free:

 

Labour accused of 'bulldozing' Lewisham members in byelection

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-accused-of-bulldozing-lewisham-members-in-byelection

 

Andy Burnham says Labour hounded Debbie Abrahams out

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/andy-burnham-says-labour-hounded-debbie-abrahams-out

 

Oh, and nice one at ignoring all the other points in my post. Or is that because you can't argue against them?

 

Are you posting from Conservative HQ?

[Obelix 11]

Will you give me some specifics about the antisemetism 'affair' and Corbyn's Brexit and EEA stance...

Quoting unsubstantiated sound bites from the MSM won't do.

Can you show me researched information please.

 

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The above comment is what I would have expected of a Sun reader.... and not an alleged intellectual..

 

Thing is- you would need to be an intellectual before you could spot one. The fact that you spot me as a Sun reader tells me volumes about how low you set your own sights and expectations.

 

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Good post.

 

Uncritically swallowing the Kool Aid again Anna?

 

Have a look at what was written, rather than just seeing the proud jezza bit on the end

[catpus 10]

nope, thats just what most lefties do, support the enemy of your enemies

 

 

Mel you really stop reading the Sun and research more...

 

I posted an actual video above. Take a look at it and see how the press skew everything Corbyn, on the orders of their .masters.'

 

---------- Post added 11-05-2018 at 15:36 ----------

 

Thing is- you would need to be an intellectual before you could spot one. The fact that you spot me as a Sun reader tells me volumes about how low you set your own sights and expectations.

 

The thing is that I AM an intellectual, my qualifications and ability to have a proper discussion and research from every available source prove it.

 

I mistakenly believed from some of what you write, that you had some level of education... but it has become clear that you are indeed limited because you constantly quote unfounded soundbites and headlines from the British Brainwashing Corporation and the gutter presstitutes like the Sun and Martin Bashir.

Edited May 11, 2018 by catpus

[GhostRiders 15]

Mel you really stop reading the Sun and research more...

 

I posted an actual video above. Take a look at it and see how the press skew everything Corbyn, on the orders of their .masters.'

 

You do realise that even the study Anna posted, by far the best piece of evidence posted by ANY Corbyn supporter I have ever seen regarding his unfair treatment by the press (I'm sure I don't need to remind you that it's not comparative so is useless as evidence that he is unfairly treated proportionately to other politicians) shows that out of the 8 newspapers looked at there was only one that had nothing positive to say about Jeremy Corbyn at all.

 

You seem to have a very exaggerated view of the actual amount of negativity shown towards Corbyn by the media.

 

And before you start calling me a Sun reader (I'm not) I'm using as evidence the academic study that Anna posted who's very aim was to find out if Jeremy Corbyn attracted negative media attention.

 

The result clearly showed (and I agree) that Corbyn received over all negative press. It did not say, as you seem to be repeatedly pushing, that he does not receive ANY positive press at all.

 

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The thing is that I AM and intellectual

 

And the Ironic post of the day award goes to.....

 

Are you not very good with grammar or are you saying that you are God AND an intellectual? (Sorry, religious psychology and philosophy is MY area of expertise and that was too easy to resist. Don't get it? Research it. Shouldn't be too difficult you being an intellectual and all)

Edited May 11, 2018 by GhostRiders

[hackey lad 3,949]

What I find amusing is that certain posters , accuse other posters of being brainwashed by the mainstream media and then to prove their point they put up links from mainstream media

[melthebell 862]

Mel you really stop reading the Sun and research more...

Nope, i know from personal experience thankyou i dont need to read things, i have family that used to be full on lefties and supported alot of similar causes to jezza and co, i have first hand experience of going on demos etc back in the 80s and 90s and seeing first hand how the likes of militant and socialist worker etc behave and who they support. I also supported "some" of the causes but not being a leftie not all if most.

[Anna B 1,401]

Thing is- you would need to be an intellectual before you could spot one. The fact that you spot me as a Sun reader tells me volumes about how low you set your own sights and expectations.

 

---------- Post added 11-05-2018 at 13:37 ----------

 

 

Uncritically swallowing the Kool Aid again Anna?

 

Have a look at what was written, rather than just seeing the proud jezza bit on the end

 

Are you deliberately targeting me? Or am I not even allowed to have an opinion of another's post now?

 

For your information I have read all of catpus' post which is a verbatim account of JC's responses to questions put to him by channel 4, and should clear up any misunderstandings about JC's relationship with Hamas and Hezbollah.

 

It's is clearly more than you've done, as your sniping and ignorance knows no bounds. If you have any questions about the post I suggest you address them to catpus, otherwise it's starting to look a lot like personal harassment.

[banjodeano 31]

This is a good article....all you Corbyn haters look away now

http://www.socialist.net/establishment-the-real-losers-in-local-elections.htm

The establishment media machine has been in overdrive since last Thursday’s local elections, attempting to portray the results as yet another disaster for Labour and its leader, Jeremy Corbyn. But after three years of spewing bile, nobody is paying much attention to their hysteria and distortions anymore.

 

And unfortunately for the Blairites, despite shouting themselves hoarse over the past month or so, Corbyn’s position seems stronger than ever. If anything, the Labour right wing’s behaviour in recent weeks has only served to shine a spotlight on the infestation in the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) that still needs to be cleaned out. This is the immediate task facing grassroots Labour activists.

 

“No clear winner”

The BBC has once again been a faithful servant of the anti-Corbyn brigade, setting the agenda as the local election results came in by claiming that there was “no clear winner”.

 

Having called the tune, the rest of the Westminster bubble duly began playing along to the now familiar refrain.

 

The capitalist press declared Corbynmania to be over, and with it the current Labour leader’s chances of entering Number 10. The corpses of New Labour grandees were reanimated in order to write Corbyn’s obituary. And their modern day acolytes took to the airwaves and Twitter to call for his head on a stick.

 

Unfortunately for these respectable ladies and gentlemen, facts are quite stubborn things. And in this case, the evidence and numbers don’t quite fit their wonderfully woven narrative.

https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/992710380479746048/photo/1

[Robin-H 11]

This is a good article....all you Corbyn haters look away now

http://www.socialist.net/establishment-the-real-losers-in-local-elections.htm

The establishment media machine has been in overdrive since last Thursday’s local elections, attempting to portray the results as yet another disaster for Labour and its leader, Jeremy Corbyn. But after three years of spewing bile, nobody is paying much attention to their hysteria and distortions anymore.

 

And unfortunately for the Blairites, despite shouting themselves hoarse over the past month or so, Corbyn’s position seems stronger than ever. If anything, the Labour right wing’s behaviour in recent weeks has only served to shine a spotlight on the infestation in the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) that still needs to be cleaned out. This is the immediate task facing grassroots Labour activists.

 

“No clear winner”

The BBC has once again been a faithful servant of the anti-Corbyn brigade, setting the agenda as the local election results came in by claiming that there was “no clear winner”.

 

Having called the tune, the rest of the Westminster bubble duly began playing along to the now familiar refrain.

 

The capitalist press declared Corbynmania to be over, and with it the current Labour leader’s chances of entering Number 10. The corpses of New Labour grandees were reanimated in order to write Corbyn’s obituary. And their modern day acolytes took to the airwaves and Twitter to call for his head on a stick.

 

Unfortunately for these respectable ladies and gentlemen, facts are quite stubborn things. And in this case, the evidence and numbers don’t quite fit their wonderfully woven narrative.

https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/992710380479746048/photo/1

 

I stopped reading (briefly - I did finish the article before the accusations come) when the article claimed Labour winning 1000 more seats than the Conservatives was the sign of a massive win.

 

Anyone who understands elections will understand that Labour were defending over a thousand more seats than the Conservatives, and therefore the absolute numbers alone are almost pointless.

 

It is the change in seats that matter. Labour didn't have a disastrous night, and neither did the Conservatives. Nothing much really changed. It is normal for the parties to lose or win many hundreds of seats in local elections. This didn't happen.

[hackey lad 3,949]

This is a good article....all you Corbyn haters look away now

http://www.socialist.net/establishment-the-real-losers-in-local-elections.htm

The establishment media machine has been in overdrive since last Thursday’s local elections, attempting to portray the results as yet another disaster for Labour and its leader, Jeremy Corbyn. But after three years of spewing bile, nobody is paying much attention to their hysteria and distortions anymore.

 

And unfortunately for the Blairites, despite shouting themselves hoarse over the past month or so, Corbyn’s position seems stronger than ever. If anything, the Labour right wing’s behaviour in recent weeks has only served to shine a spotlight on the infestation in the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) that still needs to be cleaned out. This is the immediate task facing grassroots Labour activists.

 

“No clear winner”

The BBC has once again been a faithful servant of the anti-Corbyn brigade, setting the agenda as the local election results came in by claiming that there was “no clear winner”.

 

Having called the tune, the rest of the Westminster bubble duly began playing along to the now familiar refrain.

 

The capitalist press declared Corbynmania to be over, and with it the current Labour leader’s chances of entering Number 10. The corpses of New Labour grandees were reanimated in order to write Corbyn’s obituary. And their modern day acolytes took to the airwaves and Twitter to call for his head on a stick.

 

Unfortunately for these respectable ladies and gentlemen, facts are quite stubborn things. And in this case, the evidence and numbers don’t quite fit their wonderfully woven narrative.

https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/992710380479746048/photo/1

 

Banjo I understand your love for Jeremy but to prove it by posting a link to the Socialist Appeal page , proves nothing other than , the socialists are behind Jeremy . Wow that comes as a great shock

[banjodeano 31]

Banjo I understand your love for Jeremy but to prove it by posting a link to the Socialist Appeal page , proves nothing other than , the socialists are behind Jeremy . Wow that comes as a great shock

 

erm...Hackney Lad, i am not trying to prove anything....

and your silly ridicule remarks about "your love for Jeremy" and that kind of nonsense makes you look foolish, but that is all we expect from the haters like you...just keep on hating Hackney Lad, and we will keep on laughing at you.....

I put the link up because i thought it gave another perspective to all the negative comments, not that i was trying to win any points against all the haters