The Conservative Party - all discussion here please.

[-Boomer- 10]

I see the tories are also whinging at the impartiality of the BBC, when what they really mean is why aren't they as pro-tory as most of the British media. I’ve known for quite a while that the government has been trying to control the press what with the Leveson Enquiry etc and this is the latest spat. The BBC will be next to be flogged off

[Berberis 10]

It's an ology though that makes you a scientist...!

 

(bonus points if you can remeber the advert!)

 

lol, I do remember those adverts

 

Is Maureen Lipman still alive?

[evil woman 10]

Read in the Metro paper this morning that the UK economy is growing about half the speed of that of France. In fact the media this week hasn't been very kind to the state of the economy and the effects austerity on society. Maybe that’s why the papers have turned their attention to immigration again. Strange how all the negativity has come out following the week of the election.

 

You do post a load of tripe mecky.

 

 

FROM YESTERDAY

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32720772

Bank of England says UK economy to grow by 2.5% in 2015

 

You probably missed that the economy of France has barely emerged from recession and has been struggling along at 0.3% annual groth for the last 3 years whilst the UK has been the strong evconomy of Europe.

 

http://country.eiu.com/france

 

Unlike most of the euro zone, there is no sign yet of a turnaround in the French economy; we expect real GDP growth of just 0.9% in 2015, rising to 1.2% next year.

Edited May 14, 2015 by evil woman

[L00b 441]

There was talk on Radio 4 this morning that inflation will start to rise this year as last year's oil price falls are removed from the figures over time. That could trigger a rate rise. But interest rate rises have been forecast for a few years now and something always stops them.

Probably the sheer volume of self-certified/fairyland multiples -based ongoing mortgages (particularly down south), which also explains why so many people are having problems remortgaging/trading up since the entry into force of the new minimal lending criteria.

 

The negligible base rate is possibly more than 'life support' as I1L2T3 put it earlier on, as an economical keystone for the UK economy. It's likely to stay extremely low for however long UK doesn't purge the "excess" value associated with its historical property bubble from the national economy (it still hasn't, in case anyone missed it), or at least until average wage appreciation starts to track/catch-up. In either case, a long time.

 

The alternative? Well...anyone remember the 80s?

[-Boomer- 10]

You do post a load of tripe mecky.

 

 

FROM YESTERDAY

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32720772

Bank of England says UK economy to grow by 2.5% in 2015

 

You probably missed that the economy of France has barely emerged from recession and has been struggling along at 0.3% annual groth for the last 3 years whilst the UK has been the strong evconomy of Europe.

 

http://country.eiu.com/france

 

Unlike most of the euro zone, there is no sign yet of a turnaround in the French economy; we expect real GDP growth of just 0.9% in 2015, rising to 1.2% next year.

 

France at 0.6, the UK is at 0.3 http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/may/13/eurozone-gdp-growth-figures-bank-of-england-live

 

I await the apology from this alias you have created

[Berberis 10]

France at 0.6, the UK is at 0.3 http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/may/13/eurozone-gdp-growth-figures-bank-of-england-live

 

I await the apology from this alias you have created

 

Which would you prefer?

 

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/france/gdp-growth

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp-growth

 

Average UK growth over the above 12 quarters: +0.5

Average French growth over the above 12 quarters: +0.1

Edited May 14, 2015 by Berberis

[ubermaus 10]

UK growth is stalling. That's because the cons are 3 million short on jobs created for full employment and the jobs already created are part time, self employed or non jobs.

 

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You do post a load of tripe mecky.

 

 

FROM YESTERDAY

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32720772

Bank of England says UK economy to grow by 2.5% in 2015

 

You probably missed that the economy of France has barely emerged from recession and has been struggling along at 0.3% annual groth for the last 3 years whilst the UK has been the strong evconomy of Europe.

 

http://country.eiu.com/france

 

Unlike most of the euro zone, there is no sign yet of a turnaround in the French economy; we expect real GDP growth of just 0.9% in 2015, rising to 1.2% next year.

 

Come on, UK growth has stalled. .just admit it. The plan is failing and 5 more years of austerity isn't going to change anything.

 

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The UK economy grew at the slowest pace since the final quarter of 2012 in the first three months of the year.

Quote from the tory leaning financial times, April 28th.

 

The chart shows a steady decline in the last 4 quarters.

[Berberis 10]

The chart shows a steady decline in the last 4 quarters.

 

If the rate is revised up, which it almost always is, will you then say the UK economy is doing better than France?

 

Or I have a better idea, will you do a Russell Brand and promise to poke a firework up your bottom if the Torys got a majority?

[L00b 441]

France's figures are only blipping, rebounding on the back of relatively recent (late 2014 to date) and substantial (many many £bns) orders for Dassault's Rafale fighter jet by India, Qatar and Egypt.

 

Watch the French performance for the next quarter, and see me right or wrong

 

UK growth is stalling.

UK growth is blipping just the same as the above, with figures translating the anxiety/breath-holding of the UK business world on the run-up to one of the most uncertain GE outcomes in decades (particularly the very real possibility of anti-business union man Ed Milliband getting into No.10).

 

Watch the UK's performance for the next quarter, and see me right or wrong

Edited May 14, 2015 by L00b

[ubermaus 10]

If the rate is revised up, which it almost always is, will you then say the UK economy is doing better than France?

 

Or I have a better idea, will you do a Russell Brand and promise to poke a firework up your bottom if the Torys got a majority?

 

What's France got to do with a stalling UK economy, clutching at straws isn't it

 

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France's figures are only blipping, rebounding on the back of relatively recent (late 2014 to date) and substantial (many many £bns) orders for Dassault's Rafale fighter jet by India, Qatar and Egypt.

 

Watch the French performance for the next quarter, and see me right or wrong

 

UK growth is blipping just the same as the above, with figures translating the anxiety/breath-holding of the UK business world on the run-up to one of the most uncertain GE outcomes in decades (particularly the very real possibility of anti-business union man Ed Milliband getting into No.10).

 

Watch the UK's performance for the next quarter, and see me right or wrong

 

It's a theory..my personal take is full out austerity isn't good for the economy, it has to be balanced with spending at some point. 10 years, because Osborne missed his goal is too long

 

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The only entities who will do well out of this is big business and multi national enterprises, even then when we hit a recession or another gfc it will lead to job losses, cuts everywhere.

 

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My projection is we are 6 to 10 years away from a recession. I will be looking to invest before then and ride the storm out. Just a prediction tho

Edited May 14, 2015 by ubermaus
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[Berberis 10]

I see the tories are also whinging at the impartiality of the BBC, when what they really mean is why aren't they as pro-tory as most of the British media. I’ve known for quite a while that the government has been trying to control the press what with the Leveson Enquiry etc and this is the latest spat. The BBC will be next to be flogged off

 

The government doesn't own the BBC, so it cant be flogged off.

 

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What's France got to do with a stalling UK economy, clutching at straws isn't it

 

Sorry I was confusing you with -Boomer-.

[Jonny5 10]

It's a theory..my personal take is full out austerity isn't good for the economy, it has to be balanced with spending at some point.

The loony left seem to think austerity is happening for **** and giggles but no-one wants austerity.

 

Austerity isn't good when applied to a healthy economy but it is a necessary evil for an economy that has been tinkered with by people that don't know what they are doing.

 

When the Tories have balanced the books, sold the NHS and finished beating the poor then I'm sure that they will get spending money on re-introducing fox hunting and gold-plated offices for themselves, but until then we have to sit tight.