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Did the US really invade IRAQ for the oil?

Should we pull our troops out of IRAQ?  

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  1. 1. Should we pull our troops out of IRAQ?

    • Yes immediately
      19
    • After we have installed a government and there is peace
      11


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I think it's worth reiterating (because people often seem to forget) that Iraq & Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.

 

Al Queda hated Sadam just as much as the West. He was a socialist dictator. He was a socialist. Socialist's do not believe in God. This was unnacceptable to the radical Muslim forces in the Middle East. After his invasion of Kuwait (GW1) Al Queda contacted the CIA and offered to remove Saddam for them. The CIA declined, which upset Al Queda. Al Queda had up to that point been sponsored by the USA, and were regarded as freedom fighters after they helped remove Soviet forces from Afghanistan.

 

I am not a supporter/sympathiser of Al Queda, radical religions, or terrorism in any form. I abhor them all, and hope that they all rot in hell. I have few religious convictions myself, and simply wish that people could be intelligent enough to live in harmony with each other. However we must make sure that the truth is remembered at all times, and not let our shock, horror, and sometimes even hatred blur our perception. The truth must be remembered.

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The usual rant has started with little to do with the thread. Yes I do think that oil had something to do with it and we should pull out ASAP because we went in on a lie.

 

The US is not concerned with the freedom of the Iraqi people it is insular and wants a foothold in the Middle East. The enforcement of democracy based on the US's definition of what none stateside democracy should be will no doubt fail because Muslim countries and democracy rarely go hand in hand. Despotic regimes have been around for years and even the mighty US cannot spread itself that thin in order to depose all of their dictators.

 

What annoys me is the we are getting dragged along with the flow, we will not get one penny of financial benefit out of the situation and it is costing us a fortune. The US has its lowest ever world wide approval rate and ours can't be much better.

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The US is not concerned with the freedom of the Iraqi people it is insular and wants a foothold in the Middle East.

 

Its got Israel.

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I agree crookesey i can't understand for the life of me why we would want to make ourselves so unpopular in the world community just to back up our supposed allie, the yanks only came in to the second world war because of the bombing of pearl harbour this to protect their interests.

 

Are we to accept that we have now avoided a greater amount of lost lives through terrorism by these fundamentalists in the west than the huge loss of lives to our troops and their civillian populations, i don't think so, this war can never be justified and it is high time we pressure our government to remove the troops and forcing our own government to do a u-turn.

 

NOBODY SHOULD PROFIT FROM WAR

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Its got Israel.

 

Don't get your drift, do you mean that the US have a right to stay in Iraq? I am not aware of there being a large US military presence in Israel and when it has been attacked in the past it has been able to defend itself by using it's own forces.

 

Whatever your feelings are regarding Israel it was formed on the back of the acts of a despot. Had Hitler not been around it is very likely that the European Jews would have stayed put. Perhaps if Saddam had stayed in power he would have forced the oppressed factions to rebel and Iraq could have ended up as three separate states, who knows?

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Don't get your drift, do you mean that the US have a right to stay in Iraq? I am not aware of there being a large US military presence in Israel and when it has been attacked in the past it has been able to defend itself by using it's own forces.

 

Whatever your feelings are regarding Israel it was formed on the back of the acts of a despot. Had Hitler not been around it is very likely that the European Jews would have stayed put. Perhaps if Saddam had stayed in power he would have forced the oppressed factions to rebel and Iraq could have ended up as three separate states, who knows?

 

Just a remark nothing to do with your comments.

imo israel is the 51st state of america.

thats why it cant do anything wrong (:huh:)

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The best way to bring about change in our policy of remaining in iraq is to pressurise our local mp's to bring it to the attention of our government that we want the troops to come home.

 

I am sure they will be told to take the party stance against terrorism and support the pm but if just a handful of rebels stood up against their own party leader and this government we might at least get the debate moving.

 

The cartoon incidents and subsequent publishings only went to prove that these arabs haven't got a sense of humour.

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The cartoon incidents and subsequent publishings only went to prove that these arabs haven't got a sense of humour.

 

its actually muslims not arabs.:hihi:

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:P They are all arabs in my eyes the whole stinking lot of them.

 

bit harsh...

considering the same freedom of speech is denounced when denial of the holocaust is aired?

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