Private Parking Ticket Megathread (Part 2)

[Ghostrider 11]

No - simples

[hamatik 10]

Ignore them. Or if you're worried about it then go to citizen's advice. You are supposed to have been adequetly warned about your choice to enter a contractual agreement with the enforcement company and made a conscious decision to leave your car there upon the condition that you have entered said contractual agreement. There's all sorts of requirements for them to put signs up of a certain size, which very few of these companies follow.

[AMR67 10]

Screw it up and file it under "B".

[monkey104 10]

There is a massive thread regarding car park invoices. For the correct information go there. Do not ignore, it is old advice.

[Cyclone 10]

No - simples

 

Why give out bad advice like this?

 

It hasn't been this simple since the law changed in 2012.

 

---------- Post added 26-02-2015 at 17:29 ----------

 

Make an appeal via popla, that's the first step. Do NOT ignore it.

[nikki-red 307]

Threads merged.

[MNH786 10]

Hi All

so parked my car in a farmfood car park in Hillsborough and got a £85 fine today was 12 min late... have to pay within 28 days. Question is what happens if you dont pay Since its private

Thanks

Edited March 16, 2015 by MNH786

[Penistone999 10]

Hi All

so parked my car in a farmfood car park in Hillsborough and got a £85 fine today was 12 min late... have to pay within 28 days. Question is what happens if you dont pay Since its private

Thanks

 

Firstly its NOT a fine , its a speculative invoice .

 

You need to contact KIRKBYLAD on here , his company specialises in dealing with the Vermin who send out these invoices.

[phawley 10]

What happened to the test case last month that was supposed to sort out this once and for all it was even on the national news but I've never heard the outcome?

[xdbx 10]

Its still awaiting the judges ruling according to MSE http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/reclaim/2015/02/legality-of-private-parking-fines-to-be-tested-in-court-today

[alchresearch 214]

Its a legal minefield. It would be interesting to see if a ruling is made against inflated charges for simple admin work, and if that would eventually transfer to council parking.

 

For example, if you overstay at a council car park, the fee is £50, or £25 if paid promptly. Is this also an accurate figure for admin work? And what makes up the extra £25 the council charge if its not paid quickly? In an age of automated systems do they really employ a human to do the work?

 

Going back to Beavis's test case, his main argument is that the revenue from the parking space is zero.

 

But what he doesn't mention is that his car being there may have prevented another car from parking (and spending) and that driver may have taken their custom elsewhere.

[jamesogt 11]

Hi All

so parked my car in a farmfood car park in Hillsborough and got a £85 fine today was 12 min late... have to pay within 28 days. Question is what happens if you dont pay Since its private

Thanks

 

DONT PAY!

 

Challenge, then go to POPLA for a ruling. Costs them £28 and you will 90% win.

 

As mentioned KirkbyLad has all the pro formas or send a letter similar to this when it goes to POPLA.

_____________________________________________

The Manager

Central Payment Office

VCS

PO Box 4777

Sheffield

S9 9DJ

 

Dear Sir or Madam,

 

Ticket number: vc0232977 4

Vehicle registration number: RO59NPG

 

You issued me with a parking ticket on 18/7/13 but I believe it was unfairly issued and I will not be paying your demand for payment for the following reasons.

 

• The fee is disproportionate

According to the Unfair Consumer Contract Regulations, parking charges on private land must not exceed the cost to the landowner during the period the motorist is parked there. In my case, the £100 charge you are asking for far exceeds the cost to the landowner of 1.36p per day at a cost for a £5 a year charge for a permit. The nearest public car park is at Grosvenor Casino, its daily fee is £3.50.

 

If you choose to pursue me please be aware that I will not enter into any correspondence and this will be the only letter you will receive from me until you answer the specific points raised in my letter. I may also add I have no intention of paying your parking invoice and any further decision you make will be referred the Parking Ombudsmen.

 

Should you wish to decline my appeal then please supply me with a POPLA code for reference.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

_____________________________________________

 

POPLA Response

 

The Operator states that they have incurred several costs including the costs of the

issue of the parking charge. However these costs were not incurred as a direct result

of the alleged breach, but would have been incurred regardless of whether the

Appellant breached the terms and conditions of the parking site. I am therefore not

satisfied that the Operator has proved that the amount for the parking charge

notice is a genuine pre-estimate of loss.

 

_______________________________________________

I Won.

Edited March 17, 2015 by jamesogt