Plain Talker   11 #25 Posted March 14, 2004 That's a really strange comment, as most estates started out, more than likely with younger planyting with trees, even the leafy burbs of s11,at some time, with their magnificent canopies of leaves, must have been, at one time planted with immature trees, and maybe the builders just sort of waited for them to grow.  And, unfortunately, T020, yes, the word "estate" can be correctly used to describe a development of houses, built at the same time, in the same style, by the same developers, regardless of its age.  PT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
t020   11 #26 Posted March 14, 2004 Originally posted by Plain Talker  And, unfortunately, T020, yes, the word "estate" can be correctly used to describe a development of houses, built at the same time, in the same style, by the same developers, regardless of its age.  PT   True but the term is rarely used to describe established residential areas, be it Ecclesall, Fulwood, Walkley, Crookes, wherever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #27 Posted March 14, 2004 Originally posted by t020 True but the term is rarely used to describe established residential areas, be it Ecclesall, Fulwood, Walkley, Crookes, wherever.  except maybe areas that are anywhere but S10/11, eh?  PT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
*Twinkle* Â Â 10 #28 Posted March 14, 2004 By the way I saw a young chap driving recently up your neck of the woods with a car number plate that started T020 (can't remember the last letters). Not you by any chance was it? Â ooo dear.. It's unlikely he'd tell you that... After all we don't even know his name... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
t020 Â Â 11 #29 Posted March 14, 2004 Originally posted by Plain Talker except maybe areas that are anywhere but S10/11, eh? Â PT Â Â Walkleys S6 actually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #30 Posted March 14, 2004 i can't count, either... pt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mega_monty   10 #31 Posted March 14, 2004 Heres some definitions of the terms "Estate" as quoted in the dictionary.  estate (PROPERTY) noun [C] a large area of land in the country which is owned by a family or an organization and is often farmed: It's a typical country estate with a large house for the owner, farm buildings and estate workers' houses.  estate (BUILDINGS) noun [C] UK a group of houses or factories built in a planned way: a housing estate, an industrial estate (a group of factories)  council estate UK noun [C] (US housing project) an area of a city in which there are council houses and flats: She was brought up in a council estate in Liverpool.  housing estate UK noun [C] (US housing development, ALSO subdivision) an area containing a large number of houses or apartments built close together at the same time: They live on/in a housing estate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #32 Posted March 14, 2004 thank you, mega monty!  my point exactly!  PT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
saxon51 Â Â 10 #33 Posted March 14, 2004 Thats it then. Â Ecclesall (and Fulwood etc) are housing estates, but without any local industry to be proud of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
t020 Â Â 11 #34 Posted March 14, 2004 It still doesn't alter the fact that it is very unlikely you will hear someone say something "Oh Fulwood, that ESTATE in Sheffield", yet very likely to hear "Oh Longley, that ESTATE in Sheffield". You can't dispute the fact that the word has negative connotations and is rarely used to describe established residential suburbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #35 Posted March 14, 2004 Originally posted by t020 It still doesn't alter the fact that it is very unlikely you will hear someone say something "Oh Fulwood, that ESTATE in Sheffield", yet very likely to hear "Oh Longley, that ESTATE in Sheffield". You can't dispute the fact that the word has negative connotations and is rarely used to describe established residential suburbs.  snob! pt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mega_monty   10 #36 Posted March 14, 2004 Originally posted by t020 It still doesn't alter the fact that it is very unlikely you will hear someone say something "Oh Fulwood, that ESTATE in Sheffield", yet very likely to hear "Oh Longley, that ESTATE in Sheffield". You can't dispute the fact that the word has negative connotations and is rarely used to describe established residential suburbs.  So applying your logic we cant refer to the "Chatsworth Estate" in Derbyshire because it would lower the tone of the place because of negative connotations. What utter rubbish  How can the term "Estate" have negative connotations? or is it that you find the term "Estate" common? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...