erebus 10 #1 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Washington is trying for the first time in its history, to show it can overthrow three governments simultaneously: Syria, Ukraine and Venezuela. The U.S. narrative is based on the same principles: accuse governments of killing their own citizens, qualify opponents as ’democratic’; impose sanctions against the "murderers" and ultimately operate coups. The United States government works with anyone they need to work with, to accomplish their objectives, as in Syria-they are working with Muslim extremist terrorist groups to overthrow the Assad government in Syria. They did the same thing in Libya to overthrow Colonel Gaddafi, and the same tactics have been used in Ukraine, and Venezuela. So in Ukraine the United States government decided to work with the neo-Nazis, fascists, right sector, Bandera people, those who trace their origins back to the German invasion of Ukraine and exterminating millions of Ukrainians, including maybe 2 million Jews. In Syria it is training and arming the extremist terrorist rebels, while not providing such missile systems that could be used against Israel of course. In Venezuela. after a failed attempt to overthrow Chevaz attempting to, his successor, democratically elected, is experiencing the Ukraine effect. Each time, the movement begins with a demonstration during which peaceful opponents are killed, and where both sides accuse each other of violence. In fact U.S. or NATO special forces placed on rooftops shoot at both the crowd and the police. This was the case in Daraa (Syria) in 2011, Kiev (Ukraine) and Caracas (Venezuela) this week. Alas for bad luck: autopsies in Venezuela show that two victims, one opponent and one pro-government, were killed by the same weapon. The United States has overthrown at least 70 governments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html http://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa01.html For those who wish to investigate further than pushing a button the books: William Blum’s Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II ............Will get the juices flowing Stephen Kinzer’s book Overthrow: America’s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq, but it is not the complete list Edited March 2, 2014 by erebus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Vague_Boy 10 #2 Posted March 2, 2014 and ultimately operate coups. They did it in Iran in 1953 Obama admits US involvement in 1953 Iran coup Also March 1949 Syria 1954 Guatemala 1964 Brazil But of course that was all decades ago. Human nature has changed fundamentally since then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,414 #3 Posted March 2, 2014 They did it in Iran in 1953 Obama admits US involvement in 1953 Iran coup Also March 1949 Syria 1954 Guatemala 1964 Brazil But of course that was all decades ago. Human nature has changed fundamentally since then. Has it? Does human nature ever really change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
johncocker 10 #4 Posted March 2, 2014 [/b] Has it? Does human nature ever really change? not really ,humans have always been a very violent race. When humans came across neanderthals in England, they didn't live peacefully with them - they hunted every last one of them into extinction. apart from the ones still wandering about south London and geordie land that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat 11 #5 Posted March 2, 2014 not really ,humans have always been a very violent race. When humans came across neanderthals in England, they didn't live peacefully with them - they hunted every last one of them into extinction. apart from the ones still wandering about south London and geordie land that is. I think the level of violence tolerated has changed over the years from country to country. We put up with millions of deaths in the First World War and all the major powers were quite happy to inflict huge civillian losses, with japan and Germany ( and arguably Russia )prepared to go that bit further. The west won't tolerate those sort of deliberate losses anymore and japan is (was???) a pacifist state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Clowning 10 #6 Posted March 2, 2014 Not the good old US ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,414 #7 Posted March 2, 2014 I think the level of violence tolerated has changed over the years from country to country. We put up with millions of deaths in the First World War and all the major powers were quite happy to inflict huge civillian losses, with japan and Germany ( and arguably Russia )prepared to go that bit further. The west won't tolerate those sort of deliberate losses anymore and japan is (was???) a pacifist state. Yes, but isn't that the civilisation of human nature. Human nature remains the same underneath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
erebus 10 #8 Posted March 2, 2014 Human nature of male aggressive nature, as they love violent films, treasure violent computer simulated games, which is what males love doing globally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat 11 #9 Posted March 2, 2014 Human nature of male aggressive nature, as they love violent films, treasure violent computer simulated games, which is what males love doing globally. Do you like doing that then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
monkey104 10 #10 Posted March 2, 2014 Well I suppose the UK started it all when we let them rise against us and throw us out of America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WeX 10 #11 Posted March 2, 2014 there are always those who will always try to spin anything in the news. it makes them eel special that thy think they can see something the rest of us cant. the fact is the truth is almost always more mundane than the imaginations of those who cry conspiracy at every opportunity. come the time to stand up against oppression, these same people will be peeing their pants hiding behind their mummys while the rest of us stand up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48 98 #12 Posted March 2, 2014 Well I suppose the UK started it all when we let them rise against us and throw us out of America.Yes its all our fault, we should have fought them harder, think how much better off they would have been if we had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...