Another child mauled to death by a dog.

[Bonzo77 13]

excuse me but your the one making personal attacks about being a dog hater and stupid statements:suspect:i just responded in kind ,

we all know why you won't answer ?don't you mean" I" or are you the new leader of the forum pack

now this is the last time I don't know how many different ways I've explained it in previous posts but I 'll try and make as simple as i can some one like you who is not shall we say the sharpest knife in the drawer/:D

 

Neither a gun nor a cricket bat can act autonomously, they are inanimate objects which require a conscious act by an individual before they become dangerous.

A d**k substitute of a big dog will do precisely what it wants to do with no human intervention.

now go away and talk to your 4 legged friend:)

 

Seriously, how can you insult someone for not being 'the sharpest knife in the drawer'?

[angel22 10]

A d**k substitute of a big dog will do precisely what it wants to do with no human intervention.

 

Only if allowed to do so by the owner. If I owned a dog that I knew was likely to be aggressive, I would keep it on a lead and/or muzzled. If i thought it posed a threat to children, I wouldn't allow it to be around children. Therefore, it could NOT do precisely as it wanted at all.

[Bonzo77 13]

Only if allowed to do so by the owner. If I owned a dog that I knew was likely to be aggressive, I would keep it on a lead and/or muzzled. If i thought it posed a threat to children, I wouldn't allow it to be around children. Therefore, it could NOT do precisely as it wanted at all.

 

How dare you speak and act with such common sense!

[janlizzy 10]

I already have and your claim is wrong.

 

Which claim is that?

[angel22 10]

How dare you speak and act with such common sense!

 

Well someone on this thread had to

[Mick Sage 10]

Is it, really?

 

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So is a car, or a bike. My legs are a vehicle, like a bike!

 

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Yes..........have I missed something??

 

Sorry to take so long to reply the dog wanted a walk.

Concentrating on the dog and its breed and its training is totally irrelevant to the risk of a child becoming harmed by it. It may actually be the child's interactions with the dog that sparks the fury. Like the spud gun you think is over egged at moderate risk though it could blind a child if the child shot himself in the eye with it. So with a well trained never hurt a fly dog being battered with a toy train set, bit in the genitals or having a bottle stuffed up its jacks , it may well react differently.

 

In law there is something called a reasonable parent test. The only question in this case is would a reasonable parent allow their three year old child to be left alone with a large strong toothed carnivorous animal. (Anyone quoting Mr and Mrs Darling is in the land of the fairies!)

[Zamo 10]

The type of dog is of secondary importance to the type of people owning them. Dysfunctional, wannabe gangster chavs may be attracted to certain breeds of dog (to boost their standing on the street-credometer) but but it is a bit harsh to blame the poor dogs who have no say in who takes ownership of them, or what training they receive, or how they are treated or who their socialisingwith children is supervised.

 

Stop focusing on the dogs... it's the chavs who are the problem!!!

[Bonzo77 13]

Sorry to take so long to reply the dog wanted a walk.

Concentrating on the dog and its breed and its training is totally irrelevant to the risk of a child becoming harmed by it. It may actually be the child's interactions with the dog that sparks the fury. Like the spud gun you think is over egged at moderate risk though it could blind a child if the child shot himself in the eye with it. So with a well trained never hurt a fly dog being battered with a toy train set, bit in the genitals or having a bottle stuffed up its jacks , it may well react differently.

 

In law there is something called a reasonable parent test. The only question in this case is would a reasonable parent allow their three year old child to be left alone with a large strong toothed carnivorous animal. (Anyone quoting Mr and Mrs Darling is in the land of the fairies!)

 

Well my son never bit our dog on it's genitals or stuffed a bottle up her jacks (whatever a jacks is?!), but he did hit her with toys, pulled her ears. He used to pull himself up on her before he could walk. She never did a thing.

 

As for the spud gun comments, I'm speechless. I always thought they were toys, not weapons! Don't tell johncocker!

[angel22 10]

So with a well trained never hurt a fly dog being battered with a toy train set, bit in the genitals or having a bottle stuffed up its jacks , it may well react differently.

 

But some people on this thread seem to think it only applies to Staffies. They don't seem to realise that any breed of dog could react in the same way.

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[Cyclone 10]

excuse me but your the one making personal attacks about being a dog hater and stupid statements:suspect:i just responded in kind ,

I said I had a suspicion, a fairly reasonable one. And you respond by suggesting that I like children to be killed.

Yeah, that's me making the personal attack, plain for everyone to see.

we all know why you won't answer ?don't you mean" I" or are you the new leader of the forum pack

Are you still not going to answer it then?

now this is the last time I don't know how many different ways I've explained it in previous posts but I 'll try and make as simple as i can some one like you who is not shall we say the sharpest knife in the drawer/:D

 

Neither a gun nor a cricket bat can act autonomously, they are inanimate objects which require a conscious act by an individual before they become dangerous.

A d**k substitute of a big dog will do precisely what it wants to do with no human intervention.

now go away and talk to your 4 legged friend:)

 

Still can't explain how a dog is a weapon then?

 

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Sorry to take so long to reply the dog wanted a walk.

Concentrating on the dog and its breed and its training is totally irrelevant to the risk of a child becoming harmed by it. It may actually be the child's interactions with the dog that sparks the fury. Like the spud gun you think is over egged at moderate risk though it could blind a child if the child shot himself in the eye with it. So with a well trained never hurt a fly dog being battered with a toy train set, bit in the genitals or having a bottle stuffed up its jacks , it may well react differently.

 

In law there is something called a reasonable parent test. The only question in this case is would a reasonable parent allow their three year old child to be left alone with a large strong toothed carnivorous animal. (Anyone quoting Mr and Mrs Darling is in the land of the fairies!)

 

And the answer from millions of dog owners across the country would be yes.

I suppose they're all unreasonable though, and you get to decide that?

[Mick Sage 10]

Well my son never bit our dog on it's genitals or stuffed a bottle up her jacks (whatever a jacks is?!), but he did hit her with toys, pulled her ears. He used to pull himself up on her before he could walk. She never did a thing.

 

As for the spud gun comments, I'm speechless. I always thought they were toys, not weapons! Don't tell johncocker!

 

On your first point I assume you observed this behaviour or how would you know it happened thus your child was not alone with the dog thus both the child and the dog may have reacted differently if your imposing presence was not around. A spud gun uk version is pretty harmless but as it fires a projectile at close quarters it could damage the eye. The American version is a little larger thus the risk factor increases a bit like small and large dogs.

[Cyclone 10]

Well my son never bit our dog on it's genitals or stuffed a bottle up her jacks (whatever a jacks is?!), but he did hit her with toys, pulled her ears. He used to pull himself up on her before he could walk. She never did a thing.

 

As for the spud gun comments, I'm speechless. I always thought they were toys, not weapons! Don't tell johncocker!

 

Think about the damage they could do when you let them use cutlery! A plastic spoon is the worst kind of weapon, as Alan Rickman noted, it's blunt you fool, it'll hurt more.