Wifi, kids and safety help needed.

[anywebsite 10]

Well if someone was using MY wifi hub, which won't happen. I would want to be able to monitor everything they had seen or done just to cover myself legally.

 

Despite what people may have said if someone does something illegal through your internet connection you may be held liable and they might take your computer gear away to check your claimed ignorance/innocence.

 

But like I say I don't use the wifi myself. I have no use for it, so no-one else is going to get to use it either.

 

You can't be held liable for crimes that other people have committed without your knowledge. That's just a desperate excuse. Even if it was so you'd be just as liable if you monitored it, possibly more liable if you knew it was happening & failed to prevent it. Monitoring does nothing to prevent crimes being committed on your wifi & you'd be allowing it to happen if you knew about it & did nothing. It's probably better to not know what's happening/happened in the extremely unlikely event of you being arrested for some crime committed on your wifi.

 

It sounds like you're spying on your wife because you suspect an affair or something. Whatever you're trying to do you're trying it because you're paranoid. It's not even possible without specialist equipment, expense and the time & experience to set it up properly. Even then it wouldn't be kid proof, there would still be easy ways around it that you couldn't prevent. If it was to 'protect' a child then you'd want to block access, not spy on them.

Edited February 3, 2014 by anywebsite

[floyd77 10]

We'll you obviously don't want to listen, so here you go, knock yourself out....

 

http://www.wireshark.org/about.html

 

You can do what you want using Wireshark, which is free. Roughly 100 times more difficult to achieve the same results AS USING A PROXY!

[anywebsite 10]

Proxies don't work for all protocols.

[Cyclone 10]

Well if someone was using MY wifi hub, which won't happen. I would want to be able to monitor everything they had seen or done just to cover myself legally.

 

Despite what people may have said if someone does something illegal through your internet connection you may be held liable and they might take your computer gear away to check your claimed ignorance/innocence.

 

But like I say I don't use the wifi myself. I have no use for it, so no-one else is going to get to use it either.

 

You seem to know best about the whole thing and refuse to accept the opinion of anyone better informed, so why not just solve it yourself.

It's starting to feel that offering you any help or advice is a bit of a waste as you simply ignore it.

 

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A high tech solution seems to be the only way the request may be met and will need to be sought elsewhere.

 

Good luck with that then, I doubt you'll find what you're looking for since it doesn't exist.

[Tommo68 10]

As I said above - it's perfectly possible to do this, right now for free. A copy of Linux, some tools like Snort and squid and a decent log analyzer will tell you exactly what went through it. Understanding it is another matter. It's not a simple subject to do however, for the reasons that people have posted as well.

 

All a bit too technical for us thanks though.

Im not sure that Linux would even run on a Mac, which is what he has.

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Edited February 4, 2014 by Tommo68

[Obelix 11]

All a bit too technical for us thanks though.

Im not sure that Linux would even run on a Mac, which is what he has.

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You did ask for a high tech solution though - that's what that is.

 

I'm sorry but it has to be said - you are rejecting all possible solutions out of hand because it doesnt do what you want. From what I can tell you want a turnkey solution that "just works" and does exactly what you want, with minimal effort and understanding from you.

 

That doesnt exist - unless you are prepared to spend a lot of money. At a rough guess there are a hundred or more years of solid IT experience on this thread telling you that - I really don;t think all of them are wrong and you are right it has to be said.

[anywebsite 10]

Would anybody really keep a thread open for this long & be this persistent if it was about a "friend's daughter"?

[dosxuk 10]

I think so. I reckon he's told his mate there's any easy solution, and is hoping someone might still spot this thread and provide it. If it was just for himself he'd be ignoring it and have moved on elsewhere by now, whereas I think we're well into the "saving face" stage here.

[Epic Fail 10]

The next thread will be "Best way to hide a body?".

[Tommo68 10]

You did ask for a high tech solution though - that's what that is.

 

No I did not.

 

I'm sorry but it has to be said - you are rejecting all possible solutions out of hand because it doesnt do what you want. From what I can tell you want a turnkey solution that "just works" and does exactly what you want, with minimal effort and understanding from you.

 

Exactly right. At least you understood that part. Though either of us would not have minded the effort.

 

That doesnt exist - unless you are prepared to spend a lot of money. At a rough guess there are a hundred or more years of solid IT experience on this thread telling you that - I really don;t think all of them are wrong and you are right it has to be said.

 

Duh! I have already acknowledged that.

 

 

Clearly you have not been reading the whole thread. In the opening post I did not ask for a high tech solution, quite the opposite. Obviously you missed that

 

Some people have explained, that there is a possible, but not complete, solution that is very high tech and would be very expensive. I have acknowledged these useful contributions and do so again. It's not a question of effort it is simply a question of cach and ability. Most people can operate a fridge but have no idea how it works. Well thats us and computers.

 

The need has passed now;

the person we sought to protect his daughter from is no longer in the country and she has an acceptable boyfriend of her own age.

 

and the wifi hub is turned off.

 

Hopefully one day someone will develop a bit of software or even a bit of plug in hardware that will allow people to see just what has been going on through their own internet connection.

 

As for the comment about me saving face, its not necessary I told my friend before I started the thread that it was doubtful we'd get exactly what he wanted. I also told him a load of people would misunderstand what was being asked and that some of those would start whingeing about privacy, trust, other people's rights etc. Which they did.

 

 

Looks like this thread is going nowhere now. I shall have a look at it once in a while but I'm not hopeful and like I said the need has gone though I have no doubt there are others that might want to know what is going on through their hubs.

[Obelix 11]

Clearly you have not been reading the whole thread. In the opening post I did not ask for a high tech solution, quite the opposite. Obviously you missed that

 

I refer you to post 54.

 

Some people have explained, that there is a possible, but not complete, solution that is very high tech and would be very expensive. I have acknowledged these useful contributions and do so again. It's not a question of effort it is simply a question of cach and ability. Most people can operate a fridge but have no idea how it works. Well thats us and computers.

 

The need has passed now;

the person we sought to protect his daughter from is no longer in the country and she has an acceptable boyfriend of her own age.

 

and the wifi hub is turned off.

 

Hopefully one day someone will develop a bit of software or even a bit of plug in hardware that will allow people to see just what has been going on through their own internet connection.

 

It has been developed decades ago. However it's a complex subject, and no amount of wishing or complaining on yours or any others part is going to make that easier.

 

 

Looks like this thread is going nowhere now. I shall have a look at it once in a while but I'm not hopeful and like I said the need has gone though I have no doubt there are others that might want to know what is going on through their hubs.

 

Would that be because it's not telling you exactly what you want to hear? Again, no amount of hoping on our part is going to change the fundamental point that an internet monitor device is exceedingly complex - and if you want to unwrap encrypted connections then you have legal issues as well.

 

Can you also please not quote me inaccurately as well thanks.