Halibut   12 #61 Posted December 11, 2013 BMI isn't an indicator of health - its pretty meaningless in that it only measures height and weight - its not a good measure of someones healthiness.  Good point. It's a pretty blunt instrument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mecky   10 #62 Posted December 11, 2013 I see like this - people are obsessed with image. There are plenty examples of talentless celebrities who have been made famous simply because something has considered them to be good looking and possibly worse, made money for the star-makers.  Personally, I’m not shallow like that. I form opinions of people over time on how they treat other people. The might be overweight, thin, good, bad, rich or poor, black or white or whatever. It’s how they relate to other people which matters more to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
llamatron   10 #63 Posted December 11, 2013 BMI isn't an indicator of health - its pretty meaningless in that it only measures height and weight - its not a good measure of someones healthiness.  I checked on the bbc one because I have recently lost quite a lot of weight (I am still not quite in the normal category. Even though I am very fit and no longer overweight)-it did not even ask whether I was male of female:hihi:  BMI also ignores the fact that muscle is denser than fat-which is a pretty vital part of judging whether someone is healthy. It is indeed rubbish! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Old Tom   10 #64 Posted December 11, 2013 I checked on the bbc one because I have recently lost quite a lot of weight (I am still not quite in the normal category. Even though I am very fit and no longer overweight)-it did not even ask whether I was male of female:hihi: BMI also ignores the fact that muscle is denser than fat-which is a pretty vital part of judging whether someone is healthy. It is indeed rubbish!  That's right. Everyone I know who has a rubbish BMI says the same so it must be right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #65 Posted December 11, 2013 Good point. It's a pretty blunt instrument.  It's more than blunt, it's fundamentally broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Old Tom   10 #66 Posted December 11, 2013 It's more than blunt, it's fundamentally broken.  That's right. Those stupid NHS and WHO professionals. They go to university to study medicine for a few years and then they think they know more about it than the folk who know everything about every subject on Sheffield Forum.  http://www.northessex.nhs.uk/Young%20People/what-is-bmi.htm  Why anyone goes to see a doctor I'll never know. It is far better to log on here and get your medical advice from an out of work plumber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
vwkittie   10 #67 Posted December 11, 2013 It's sad that nowadays it's almost more socially acceptable to be fat than slim.  How many ranges of clothes are there or indeed entire shops that only cater for fatter women, yet stores that don't stock larger sizes get it in the neck?  Promoting any unhealthy body images, whether too thin or fat, is wrong. Of course no one is going to look at fat women and wish they were fatter but it's all a slide towards obese being normal.  All we need to do is ban digital manipulation of people's bodies in advertising and start promoting REAL (that's actually real, not fat!) beauty and healthy bodies (NOT fat and NOT too thin!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #68 Posted December 11, 2013 That's right. Those stupid NHS and WHO professionals. They go to university to study medicine for a few years and then they think they know more about it than the folk who know everything about every subject on Sheffield Forum. http://www.northessex.nhs.uk/Young%20People/what-is-bmi.htm  Why anyone goes to see a doctor I'll never know. It is far better to log on here and get your medical advice from an out of work plumber.  I've just done a few calcs for some England rugby players.. they almost all come out as obese using BMI..is that a good measure of health and fitness do you think..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #69 Posted December 11, 2013 It's sad that nowadays it's almost more socially acceptable to be fat than slim. How many ranges of clothes are there or indeed entire shops that only cater for fatter women, yet stores that don't stock larger sizes get it in the neck?  Promoting any unhealthy body images, whether too thin or fat, is wrong. Of course no one is going to look at fat women and wish they were fatter but it's all a slide towards obese being normal.  All we need to do is ban digital manipulation of people's bodies in advertising and start promoting REAL (that's actually real, not fat!) beauty and healthy bodies (NOT fat and NOT too thin!)  What strikes me about your post is that somehow you think it is acceptable for society to dictate how people should look. As long as people are happy in their skin I really don't see an issue.  If someone is overweight and not happy with that, than they can go and change the way they live. If they don't want to, tough, nothing to do with you is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Super Hans   10 #70 Posted December 11, 2013 BMI isn't an indicator of health - its pretty meaningless in that it only measures height and weight - its not a good measure of someones healthiness.  For men with a lot of muscle, yeah...for women, who generally don't have much muscle it's a pretty good indicator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alternageek   10 #71 Posted December 11, 2013 It's sad that nowadays it's almost more socially acceptable to be fat than slim. How many ranges of clothes are there or indeed entire shops that only cater for fatter women, yet stores that don't stock larger sizes get it in the neck?  How many stores only cater to us fatties? Evans is really the only one and the stock they carry is laughable.  A handful of catalog shops, who all stock the same or similar clothes. For someone who falls into normal sizes, there are loads of stores. Some retailers may go up to a 28, but youll find their 20-28 sizes available only online.  So, please, let me know all the high street retailers who only specialise in larger sizes. PLEASE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #72 Posted December 11, 2013 It's sad that nowadays it's almost more socially acceptable to be fat than slim.  For men it's always been more socially acceptable to be fat than thin. If you don't want to dress like a teenager or look as if you're about to train for a marathon you have to choose clothes based on what fits rather than what you like and even then you have to hunt around to find things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...