Strike action Living Wage

[JR hartley 10]

Perhaps you'd like to answer the following question, something I'm sure everyone wants to know. Because it seems you have the answer to everything.

 

Who the heck is that person in your picture wearing the bikini? :love:

 

thats the captain of a fishing boat in the Florida Keys i once had the pleasure of......the boat trip that is:love:

[chriscalcite 10]

I don't know what it's in Sheffield, but in Leeds, where the support staff are striking because their pay rise is less than inflation, the VC has just given himself a rise of £38K...

 

The average pay rise in 2012 for vice chancellors in Russell Group universities (of which Leeds and Sheffield are both members) was £10,000 pa.

 

During the same period, the average pay rise for a lecturer was £150.

 

(source: The Independent newspaper, 9 April 2013)

[Hairyloon 10]

The average pay rise in 2012 for vice chancellors in Russell Group universities (of which Leeds and Sheffield are both members) was £10,000 pa.

 

During the same period, the average pay rise for a lecturer was £150.

 

What's that as percentage rises?

If memory serves Leeds VC was up about 12.5%

[Dannyno 19]

Is there something we haven't been told publicly?? A pay cut ??? From your original contract ????? Or is it just you haven't had an unaffordable pay rise ??? I am guessing there will be

Plenty of graduates ready to take any places!!

 

It's not unaffordable, though.

 

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I read it thanks maybe you would like to explain real term pay cuts please!?

 

A "real terms pay cut" is when you end up worse off because your pay fails to keep up with increases in the cost of living.

[JR hartley 10]

It's not unaffordable, though.

 

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A "real terms pay cut" is when you end up worse off because your pay fails to keep up with increases in the cost of living.

 

yep i thought that would be the answer:roll: welcome to the real world! many many people have the same to put up with to get the credit crunch back in the black.............and dont strike either:roll:

[Dannyno 19]

No; I'm actually a fan of increasing the minimum wage to the point where benefits aren't required for people to actually pay for things when they have a job. Which is something the Living Wage still doesn't address.

 

If the Living Wage was a £10+ ph figure and anyone who was in full time work on Living Wage was no longer entitled to anything, then you'd have a better argument for it in my opinion. As it is now however, it doesn't achieve anything but pay people who are on a low wage a slightly higher but still low wage.

 

Oh, and let's not forget that introducing a higher minimum payscale in an organisation to account for the living wage being introduced will also cause knock on effects higher up the payscale. In our scenario at the University, I'm sure those people currently on ~£14k pa (admin staff etc) will want an increase in pay so they are paid more than the person who empties their bin.

 

You were arguing that the living wage would make inflation go through the roof. Your point here seems a very different one.

 

Universities have a nationally agreed payscale, and grading systems based on the nature of particular jobs which don't necessarily respect traditional differentials.

[Stan Tamudo 10]

yep i thought that would be the answer:roll: welcome to the real world! many many people have the same to put up with to get the credit crunch back in the black.............and dont strike either:roll:

 

 

Stick to selling pies and beverages ab, you're a poor internet troll.

Edited December 6, 2013 by Stan Tamudo

[Norseman 10]

That's funny then, because i'm in Unison and so are my colleagues in my office and we have not been told to strike and only UCU have protection in today's strike

 

Not sure what planet you are on then, as all three unions were out on strike on Tuesday. Its not only about the academics but also the lower paid support staff. The University has made a record year for income this year and the vast majority of that comes from the lower end of the spectrum, yet the employees have been offered a paltry 1%. I'm sure the VC and other heads will still get their big Brucie bonuses though without question!

 

There was a ballot and strike action was called by all 3 unions, best check that with your shop stewards, people I know from Unison were all out on strike on Tuesday

 

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The average pay rise in 2012 for vice chancellors in Russell Group universities (of which Leeds and Sheffield are both members) was £10,000 pa.

 

During the same period, the average pay rise for a lecturer was £150.

 

(source: The Independent newspaper, 9 April 2013)

 

Imagine how much a lower paid worker got from grades 1-5 and most of these grades are the ones doing the work to get the students here! once you've taken off tax and insurance its an insult and is not a living wage.

[Mr Bloom 10]

No i think when you go into a profession knowing full well the salary and prospects, then you should put up or shut up or alternatively find another profession if you dont like the terms.

instead of creating problems for students missing lectures (which incidentally they have borrowed to pay for) whilst the unionista!!! sit there and try scoring points :roll:

 

The trouble is people do go in to jobs knowing what the salary is but their salaries are worth nothing as the cost of living is spiralling and their pensions are being eroded (you know, the ones you lot call 'gold-plated').

 

And 'unionista'? Is that an attempt to be 'bang on trend'?

[chriscalcite 10]

yep i thought that would be the answer:roll: welcome to the real world! many many people have the same to put up with to get the credit crunch back in the black.............and dont strike either:roll:

 

Yes, well just because you rolled over and tugged your forelock when they decided to shaft you to protect their profits doesn't mean we're all going to do the same.

[JR hartley 10]

Yes, well just because you rolled over and tugged your forelock when they decided to shaft you to protect their profits doesn't mean we're all going to do the same.

 

No have never rolled over just worked damn hard to protect my profits!!! Don't do forelock tugging !

 

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The trouble is people do go in to jobs knowing what the salary is but their salaries are worth nothing as the cost of living is spiralling and their pensions are being eroded (you know, the ones you lot call 'gold-plated').

 

And 'unionista'? Is that an attempt to be 'bang on trend'?

 

Just like the rest of the working population! But the public gold

Plated sector still have the advantage oh you don't like unionista ??? How about red flag waving pseudo socialist sponging union leaders ? Remember old Arthur ? And today you have mc clusky etc etc spouting their rhetoric on great union salaries paid by lowly members bang

On trend eh?

 

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The trouble is people do go in to jobs knowing what the salary is but their salaries are worth nothing as the cost of living is spiralling and their pensions are being eroded (you know, the ones you lot call 'gold-plated').

 

And 'unionista'? Is that an attempt to be 'bang on trend'?

 

For the third time will try and answer this post!!!!

Without it going missing!

 

The trouble is we all go into jobs and sometime things don't work out salarywise especially with economic climate today! It does seem that there are sections especially public sector who fare better but still are intent on strikes? Pushed along by the "unionista" sorry you don't like that term...... The red socialist flag waving card carrying union leaders ! Remember Arthur? And now we have mc clusky etc etc with nice fat salaries paid for

By their lowly members ? Wake up guys can't you see the wood for the trees ?

[JR hartley 10]

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Edited December 6, 2013 by JR hartley