SpikeMac   10 #13 Posted November 29, 2013 Technically an opinion can't be wrong, can it ?  In my opinion, they can be:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SpikeMac   10 #14 Posted November 29, 2013  That would mean you support Islamic extremists.  No it wouldn't.  It would mean that I oppose racists.  You need to do a course in logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
angos   10 #15 Posted November 29, 2013 No it wouldn't. It would mean that I oppose racists.  You need to do a course in logic.  So in what way is his opinion on Islamic extremist wrong then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #16 Posted November 29, 2013 So in what way is his opinion on Islamic extremist wrong then? have we not had this conversation a billion times before? its not the extremist part thats the issue, its the usual islamophobia disguised as being against islamic extremists that is the problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pessimistic1   10 #17 Posted November 29, 2013 have we not had this conversation a billion times before? its not the extremist part thats the issue, its the usual islamophobia disguised as being against islamic extremists that is the problem  I thought Robinson was working with other Muslims to tackle Islamic extremists? So I don't think that statement rings true TBH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Maxtor   10 #18 Posted November 29, 2013 he sounds like a good law abiding english man we should all strive to be like     That dunt make him wrong about muslims though dose it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #19 Posted November 29, 2013 I thought Robinson was working with other Muslims to tackle Islamic extremists? So I don't think that statement rings true TBH. it did, and now we shall see if hes actually changed, although it seems to have gone quiet on that front at the minute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #20 Posted November 29, 2013 Yup he was spot on in some of his speeches. and total bobbar in others, such as that stacey wotsit video i kept posting where he met some real muslims and even tho they tried explaining things, he didnt want to know and kept repeating the same things, we hear on here day in day out..........may aswell hve been sticking his fingers in his ears and going mer mer mer mer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pessimistic1 Â Â 10 #21 Posted November 29, 2013 Then, almost at once, one heard even more significant news: Peter Mandelson, who has twice been in the Cabinet and has twice had to resign in varying degrees of disgrace, is to return as Business Secretary. This is beyond an April Fool moment. When Caligula wished to show his contempt for the Roman political establishment, he tried to make his horse consul. Mr Brown's administration has now, it is clear, entered its Caligula's horse phase. Â The Mandelson appointment is so contemptible that it deserves to be one of the most conspicuous reasons for the electorate to punish Labour when the time comes. First, it is well known that Messrs Brown and Mandelson hate each other. How effective government can be conducted when two of the most prominent figures in it have the degree of mutual loathing we know exists between these oddballs is, to say the least, an interesting question. Â He's now a Lord..... Â http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/simonheffer/3562561/Third-time-lucky-for-Peter-Mandelson.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #22 Posted November 29, 2013 Then, almost at once, one heard even more significant news: Peter Mandelson, who has twice been in the Cabinet and has twice had to resign in varying degrees of disgrace, is to return as Business Secretary. This is beyond an April Fool moment. When Caligula wished to show his contempt for the Roman political establishment, he tried to make his horse consul. Mr Brown's administration has now, it is clear, entered its Caligula's horse phase.  The Mandelson appointment is so contemptible that it deserves to be one of the most conspicuous reasons for the electorate to punish Labour when the time comes. First, it is well known that Messrs Brown and Mandelson hate each other. How effective government can be conducted when two of the most prominent figures in it have the degree of mutual loathing we know exists between these oddballs is, to say the least, an interesting question.  He's now a Lord.....  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/simonheffer/3562561/Third-time-lucky-for-Peter-Mandelson.html couldnt you have tried changing the subject a little more subtly lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pessimistic1   10 #23 Posted November 29, 2013 couldnt you have tried changing the subject a little more subtly lol  Its not really a change of subject. Mandelson was caught doing mortgage fraud and he's now a Lord! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
LeMaquis   10 #24 Posted November 29, 2013 Its not really a change of subject. Mandelson was caught doing mortgage fraud and he's now a Lord!  He wasn't caught doing mortgage fraud. He had a mortgage from the Britannia and an undisclosed loan from Geoffrey Robinson MP. It was dodgy and led to his first resignation but it wasn't fraud, which is a criminal act. If you think it was fraud then report it to the police and ask them to investigate. It's never too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...