The New Moor Market

[hello1964 23]

Describe these low life scum that used the old Market ,A place you did not set foot in by the sounds of things.

Well I recall seeing toothless, pockmarked faces, hoods up on summers days,smoking rollups, swigging cider and discussing failure to report for bail.

[cuttsie 1,089]

They were not talking about people who USED the market. They were talking about some of the types of people who frequented the area it was situated in.

 

An area where drunks, drug users, chavs, shoplifters and general delinquents would frequent. The low life types who would loiter around the market in between their trips from the bookies, pubs, cash converters, another pub, magistrates court and dole office.

 

The area was in decay. The areas was becoming more and more distanced from the rest of the prime retail. It was clearly not going to last.

 

It was a dump. Modern day customers were avoiding it in their droves.

 

More sensible people quite rightly made a decision that it had to be closed and moved to where retail will be prime concern. More sensible people quite rightly made the decision that Castle Market was never going to remain a long term retail hub for the future.

 

The whole areas use is being pushed towards office and residential space with much LESS focus on retail. Castle Market (even a shiny renovated version of it) would have been ridiculous in an area surrounded by office with little other shops.

That is codswallop , by the way I was asking the question from the person who never shopped in the Castle Market ,avoided the area and yet had intimate knowledge of the people who did ,This is par for the course by the experts who think that they are some how superior to ordinary Sheffielder's this is very evident by their comments although they all "never use or visit the area" .

[northernboy 13]

Describe these low life scum that used the old Market ,A place you did not set foot in by the sounds of things.

 

Not in the market, I said in the streets. You know perfectly well the type of people I was talking about.

[cuttsie 1,089]

Not in the market, I said in the streets. You know perfectly well the type of people I was talking about.

Visit West Street on Friday and Saturday night.

[SYorksDeano 10]

Well I recall seeing toothless, pockmarked faces, hoods up on summers days,smoking rollups, swigging cider and discussing failure to report for bail.

 

That sounds like you've been standing outside Bankers Draft

[ECCOnoob 1,022]

Visit West Street on Friday and Saturday night.

 

Very true. BUT this is in a specific area which is top heavy with bars/clubs and an area primarily for leisure/social activity. It is also only on the two nights you mentioned where the worst behaviour is seen and its controlled by a heavy presence of police and specialist door staff.

 

You don't see such behaviour at 2.00pm on a Tuesday afternoon. You don't see West Street filled on a daily basis with drunks, druggies and delinquents.

 

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That is codswallop , by the way I was asking the question from the person who never shopped in the Castle Market ,avoided the area and yet had intimate knowledge of the people who did ,This is par for the course by the experts who think that they are some how superior to ordinary Sheffielder's this is very evident by their comments although they all "never use or visit the area" .

 

Take off your rose tinted specs for god sake. Stop pretending that your precious historic trading area is some form of gardens of Babylon.

 

I don't care who you asked the question to. This is a public forum for debate on a particular topic. I have an opinion just as much as anyone else.

 

You are the one talking "codswallop" as you say. You cannot see Castlegate, Castle Market and its surrounding streets for what it was.

A dump. A dump littered with some of the worst dregs of the city population.

 

Its coming up 2 years now since Castle Market closed and you're continuing to mourn its loss like some deceased relative. Its gone. Its not coming back. Stop banging on and on and on and on and on making up nonsense about how precious it was to the lives of Sheffielders, how the area was so charming and bustling, how the people were so salt of the earth and real examples of working class "proper" Sheffielders.

 

Life has moved on. Its pathetic.

Edited August 2, 2015 by ECCOnoob

[cuttsie 1,089]

Very true. BUT this is in a specific area which is top heavy with bars/clubs and an area primarily for leisure/social activity. It is also only on the two nights you mentioned where the worst behaviour is seen and its controlled by a heavy presence of police and specialist door staff.

 

You don't see such behaviour at 2.00pm on a Tuesday afternoon. You don't see West Street filled on a daily basis with drunks, druggies and delinquents.

 

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Take off your rose tinted specs for god sake. Stop pretending that your precious historic trading area is some form of gardens of Babylon.

 

I don't care who you asked the question to. This is a public forum for debate on a particular topic. I have an opinion just as much as anyone else.

 

You are the one talking "codswallop" as you say. You cannot see Castlegate, Castle Market and its surrounding streets for what it was.

A dump. A dump littered with some of the worst dregs of the city population.

 

Its coming up 2 years now since Castle Market closed and you're continuing to mourn its loss like some deceased relative. Its gone. Its not coming back. Stop banging on and on and on and on and on making up nonsense about how precious it was to the lives of Sheffielders, how the area was so charming and bustling, how the people were so salt of the earth and real examples of working class "proper" Sheffielders.

 

Life has moved on. Its pathetic.

No need to get personal , The people you refer to do not come on forums such as this ,And may I add are the salt of the Earth without visions of grander as per their detractors .

[discodown 11]

Visit West Street on Friday and Saturday night.

How often do you do that? I'm interested, what bars do you frequent on a friday and saturday night? You are quick to challenge but tell us, how you know exactly what West Street is like on the heaviest, busiest nights of the week

[gwhite78 10]

However you employees of SCC on this thread try and dress Sheffield City Centre up as some megatropolis hiving with activity and tourists.

 

The people who live and work here know different, the majority of the city centre (Peace Gardens & Railway St Feature excluded) is years behind other cities and is appalling in terms of urban planning and other amenities.

 

Even the VERY worst market in London is years ahead of Moor Market.

[cuttsie 1,089]

How often do you do that? I'm interested, what bars do you frequent on a friday and saturday night? You are quick to challenge but tell us, how you know exactly what West Street is like on the heaviest, busiest nights of the week

I visit the City Hall on occasions to see various artists on one occasion not so long ago a bloke was punched at the Tram stop across from Holly Street , he died when his head hit the floor.

Apart from that we have all our family get togethers in the Red Deer on Pitt Street [do you know where Pitt Street is?].

On walking to our tram or bus stop we have to pass the so called inteligent and upwardly mobile West Street mob, spewing, scrapping and shaggging in full view of all and sundry.

So yes I do know West Street very well.

In contrast on some Friday or Saturday nights I visit the Norfolk on Dixon Lane in the ex Market area , no problems ever en counted except for the occasional snore from a home less Street sleeper who sleeps down that end so as not to his or her head kicked in by the drunken ****es on West Street.

[melthebell 862]

Visit West Street on Friday and Saturday night.

 

its ok Gary Madines in Bolton now fella

[cuttsie 1,089]

its ok Gary Madines in Bolton now fella

A legend on West Street fitted in well;)