Bonzo77   13 #145 Posted November 29, 2013 Really?  http:// http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131125/184966751/Baby-Dies-After-Parents-Trade-Hospital-For-Church-After-Crash.html  These people are called idiots, just a coincidence that they are religious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ryedo40 Â Â 10 #146 Posted November 29, 2013 These people are called idiots, just a coincidence that they are religious. Â To me it's obvious they were concerned about their child. But if they hadn't held those idiotic religious beliefs, ones that the Orthodox Church has traditionally indoctrinated people with, they may not have been quite so idiotic: they may have gone to hospital instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bonzo77 Â Â 13 #147 Posted November 29, 2013 To me it's obvious they were concerned about their child. But if they hadn't held those idiotic religious beliefs, ones that the Orthodox Church has traditionally indoctrinated people with, they may not have been quite so idiotic: they may have gone to hospital instead. Â No, just idiots! If you're injured, you need a hospital. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
waldershelf   10 #148 Posted November 29, 2013 the biggest work of fiction that existed till the hobbit and the lord of the rings was written  To be fair Lord of the Rings is a better read and a lot more believable than the bible, well the current version anyway (they do keep changing it and don't include the best bits anymore.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ryedo40 Â Â 10 #149 Posted November 29, 2013 No, just idiots! If you're injured, you need a hospital. Â I'm guessing they thought the baby was going to die. Thinking baptism would save the baby from original sin - and open the door to heaven and Jesus where the baby would spend eternity - they did what they did. Â Yes, they were idiots: deeply religious idiots who prioritised idiotic religious beliefs over seeking medical help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jfish1936   10 #150 Posted December 1, 2013 I don't think you can really compere America with us. Many have an attachment to their past religious heritage because they strongly identify themselves with the history and struggle of their ancestors, some who went to America to escape religious persecution. On the whole, I think traditionally they have always tried to be a tolerant nation who have a history of welcoming people from all cultures, races beliefs/non beliefs.  Yes, America has been well known for its white inhabitants' tolerance and welcome to blacks. The real reason the "Pilgrim Fathers" went to America was to found a colony in which they could persecute those who worshipped differently; they used corporal and capital punishment on them! We spent a long holiday with many Americans; they were real nice folk to us. But their views on Obama's re-election were extreme! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #151 Posted December 1, 2013 Yes, America has been well known for its white inhabitants' tolerance and welcome to blacks. The real reason the "Pilgrim Fathers" went to America was to found a colony in which they could persecute those who worshipped differently; they used corporal and capital punishment on them! We spent a long holiday with many Americans; they were real nice folk to us. But their views on Obama's re-election were extreme!  You'd have thought with him being half white, they'd be at least half happy about it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48   98 #152 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Yes, America has been well known for its white inhabitants' tolerance and welcome to blacks. The real reason the "Pilgrim Fathers" went to America was to found a colony in which they could persecute those who worshipped differently; they used corporal and capital punishment on them! We spent a long holiday with many Americans; they were real nice folk to us. But their views on Obama's re-election were extreme! I was just really pointing out how diverse America is racially and ethnically with such a massive population, not ignoring the faults of its history or denying that prejudices don't still exist in the present. I can't comment on why those Americans didn't want to see Obama re-elected, because I don't know whether it was for a political reason, or something else. Edited December 1, 2013 by janie48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #153 Posted December 1, 2013 These people are called idiots, just a coincidence that they are religious.  Another coincidence?  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515597/Family-Amish-girl-cancer-claim-natural-remedies-cured-her.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jfish1936   10 #154 Posted December 3, 2013 Another coincidence? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515597/Family-Amish-girl-cancer-claim-natural-remedies-cured-her.html  Let's see how she is in a year or two. I'd be so happy if "natural remedies" did cure her -- it would probably be much less expensive. Sadly, I've seen adult patients die under "natural" treatments. Don't know which leukaemia this child has, but the prognosis for many forms is good with chemotherapy.  It wouldn't really be ethical to put 100 patients on "natural" and 100 on "unnatural" treatments, and see how many of each group live 5 years.  But if this child were in our family, I'd vote for the chemo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
psynuk   10 #155 Posted December 3, 2013 The bible is actually FACTION, fact and fiction combined, but hunting for the facts in the fiction is a very time involving practice. All fairy stories have a truth within them.  no its not. It's fiction peppered with truths. calling it 'faction' is just trying to give credence to it where none exists. The major points in the bible still come under fiction; Omnipotent God, virgin birth, resurrection and hell/heaven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #156 Posted December 3, 2013 no its not. It's fiction peppered with truths  So truths aren't facts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...