Strike action in the public and private sectors !

[alchresearch 214]

50%? Just remind us what percentage the tories got at the last election before deciding to inflict financial hardship on 99% of the population?

 

Oh the irony of using percentages in your argument then saying "99%" at the end!

[Chelle-82 10]

There has been a lot of strike action recently including firemen and other public sectors , why is it that then private sector rarely strike anymore? Is it because they know their Jobs would Be at risk? Isn't it about time the

Public sector realised this ? Or even that strike action should be gross misconduct and punished by dismissal ?

 

I'm not speaking for all private sector companies but I feel that the private sector has many small family owned businesses and there's something called Loyalty! I work in the private sector and I wouldn't dream of going on strike against my employers. If I have ever had any grievances I have always been able to approach my employers and iron things out and that goes for anyone working at this company.

[Grenoside123 10]

Oh grow up Mekcy. "Financial hardship on 99% of the population" my foot.

 

Firstly the national average stats are always to be taken with a pinch of salt because they are flawed twice with not only London weighting but also directors and executives salaries being in there. Is perfectly correct that 1 or 2 directors either owning or controlling entire sections of the business will earn 10x 15x more than the thousands of workers on the shop floor doing the work.

 

Secondly, this country has absolutely no indication of what "financial hardship" actually means. The way the media and people such as yourself drone on with these sob stories about people losing their jobs, people having to tighten their belts a bit, people having to economise..... blah blah.

 

We are in a recession. Of course people are having to tighten their belts. Adults in the real world know this and have done this for years. People adapt when times are hard and then relax when times get easier. Nothing new there.

 

Yes some people will be unfortunate enough to come out of work, but the state provides. The state pays bills, puts a roof over your head, puts food in your mouth. The country is rich enough to have all these things. There are enough people earning money paying taxes to create the public purse which funds all those things.

 

Poverty in this county seems to range from people having to live off tinned foods and fish fingers through to people who don't have the internet and a digital television. That is not POVERTY. That is just living on a low income.

 

Poverty is a word used to describe people living in social housing, with pre-payment fuel and subsidised living costs through the state. That is not POVERTY. That is living on a low income.

 

To hear the whinging, whining, moaning and media reporting on having to deal with "financial hardship" the world would think half the population was on the streets eating dog food out of a tin. When they saw the reality they would think we were mad to scream "hardship"

 

99% struggling are they??? You wouldn't know it from looking at a shopping centre or supermarket every weekend. You wouldn't know it from looking at the clothing people are buying and the contents of their (even state provided) homes. You wouldn't know if from the riots that were black Friday of people desperately trying to get their hands on the latest tech. You wouldn't know it from the amount of people wandering around with the latest smart phone, tablets, ipads.

 

Even down to the worst affected people we provide. The money is generated. This is what is available to street homeless in the UK...

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/incoming/article9023005.ece/alternates/w620/homeless.jpg

http://www.qha.org.uk/sites/default/Images/BedsQOC2008.jpg

 

Food in their belly. A roof over their head. Basic but provided.

 

This is the other world we forget about....

http://static.ibnlive.in.com/ibnlive/pix/sitepix/12_2010/homeless_india.jpg

 

Our "financial hardship" is so first world we even have eccentrics like this guy of the population who choose to live a homeless lifestyle despite having a job and earning money for himself.... http://www.piano-tuning.co.uk/lifestyle/

 

I wonder what the folks with no choice in the Third World would think of that.

 

In a nutshell. Come back to me when they decide to strike over some REAL problems. Not just the same stuff that everyone else has been dealing with for years and will continue to deal with.

 

Well said. It's a real pet hate of mine when people use the term 'poverty' in relation to the UK. Poverty refers to people living in third wold countries in little tin shacks with no access to health care, very little food and no clean water to drink.

[Mecky 10]

Oh the irony of using percentages in your argument then saying "99%" at the end!

 

What's ironic about that? Why do you dispute the facts?

 

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Oh grow up Mekcy. "Financial hardship on 99% of the population" my foot.

 

So why do we have a 1% thread on here? http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1372681 and why haven't you commented on it?

[Mister M 1,608]

Speaking of the public / private split - it may interest you to knowthat public sector workers are more likely to do unpaid overtime than people working in the private sector.

 

http://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace-issues/work-life-balance/more-people-working-unpaid-overtime-ever

 

Perhaps that's why people in the public sector are going out on strike?

[truman 10]

Speaking of the public / private split - it may interest you to knowthat public sector workers are more likely to do unpaid overtime than people working in the private sector.

 

http://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace-issues/work-life-balance/more-people-working-unpaid-overtime-ever

 

Perhaps that's why people in the public sector are going out on strike?

 

According to that link (2011 by the way so 4 years out of date) public employees do less hours unpaid overtime..

 

Statistics eh?

Edited January 23, 2015 by truman

[Mecky 10]

Speaking of the public / private split - it may interest you to knowthat public sector workers are more likely to do unpaid overtime than people working in the private sector.

 

http://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace-issues/work-life-balance/more-people-working-unpaid-overtime-ever

 

Perhaps that's why people in the public sector are going out on strike?

 

That's the thing isn't it, pay public servants out of the public purse, whom tend to be on salaries lower than their private sector counterparts, or pay private sector firms ..... from the public purse.

 

Oh BTW, that's another 3 people down, well, 1 actually since it's the same person

[truman 10]

That's the thing isn't it, pay public servants out of the public purse, whom tend to be on salaries lower than their private sector counterparts, or pay private sector firms ..... from the public purse.

 

Oh BTW, that's another 3 people down, well, 1 actually since it's the same person

 

Are you sure?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26512643

 

No guarantee that that is a fact..

Edited January 23, 2015 by truman

[Mecky 10]

Are you sure?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26512643

 

No guarantee that that is a fact..

 

Yes, I am sure, especially when the media try to divide and conquer, why? Especially something coming from a tory quango

[Mister M 1,608]

According to that link (2011 by the way so 4 years out of date) public employees do less hours unpaid overtime..

 

Statistics eh?

 

Public sector workers are more likely to do unpaid overtime (26.3 %), than private sector (18.9%) - is that incorrect? If you have more up to date figures then share them.

[ab6262 202]

Public sector workers are more likely to do unpaid overtime (26.3 %), than private sector (18.9%) - is that incorrect? If you have more up to date figures then share them.

:hihi: really??? is that to make up for "sick" days in their contracts, or the flexi time thats very flexible? or when they need time off to go to their union meetings and protests?

 

would love to know where those figures came from?? socialist worker by any chance:hihi:

[Mister M 1,608]

:hihi: really??? is that to make up for "sick" days in their contracts, or the flexi time thats very flexible? or when they need time off to go to their union meetings and protests?

 

would love to know where those figures came from?? socialist worker by any chance:hihi::roll:

 

No from the Office for National Statistics, who David Cameron constantly quotes from when he needs evidence to back up his claims.

Is this your 3rd or 4th username whilst on here ab?