Zamo   10 #13 Posted October 14, 2013 I think encouraging children to engage in physical exercises and making them fun is far more productive than blaming and shaming them.  Is the softly, softly, nicely, nicely approach really more productive? The nation has got fatter and fatter since we all starting being so politically correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,575 #14 Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Is the softly, softly, nicely, nicely approach really more productive? The nation has got fatter and fatter since we all starting being so politically correct. Â Not sure it is to do with political correctness just common sense. If a child repeatedly hears negative messages that they are fat, they may feel helpless and low. That the nation has got fatter is more to do with the fact that people tend to lead more sedentary lifestyles than they used to. Â It's also worth pointing out that people can have high cholestrol levels and a high body fat ratio, yet still be comparatively slim. It's more about a healthy lifestyle as much as what the person looks like. Edited October 14, 2013 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Zamo   10 #15 Posted October 14, 2013 I think you might be missing the point a little. Isn't it about their health rather than about how it makes you feel?  The point I was making is that it is so normal to be fat nowadays that there is no embrassment attached to it. As a consequence the generations coming through are getting fatter and fatter.  There was a study recently that indicated that the younger generations will not live as long as we currently do because of health issues. We are killing our kids with kindness.  ---------- Post added 14-10-2013 at 13:31 ----------  Not sure it is to do with political correctness just common sense. If a child repeatedly hears negative messages that they are fat, they may feel helpless and low. That the nation has got fatter is more to do with the fact that people tend to lead more sedentary lifestyles than they used to.  It's also worth pointing out that people can have high cholestrol levels and a high body fat ratio, yet still be comparatively slim. It's more about a healthy lifestyle as much as what the person looks like.  You'll be telling me next that the current generation are just bigger boned!  Of course people are fatter because they lead more sedentary lifestyles. My point is that they might get off there backsides if they were actually embrassed about the size of it.  How is it common sense to let people believe it is OK to be fat and die young? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bypassblade   10 #16 Posted October 14, 2013 When was that then? 1945 before rationing ended? This is not pulling you up Cyclone, unbelievably rationing did not officially end until 1954 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Olive   10 #17 Posted October 14, 2013 The point I was making is that it is so normal to be fat nowadays that there is no embrassment attached to it. As a consequence the generations coming through are getting fatter and fatter.   I'm not sure about that, no matter how common it is to be overweight these days, the social stigma is still there. There seems to be more pressure and emphasis on how young people look than ever.  A question about overweight youngsters - how do they get that way? Aren't the parents in charge of buying food and doling out pocket money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Super Hans   10 #18 Posted October 14, 2013 It's the parents fault in the first place, there is no other way around it. Unless the kid was a healthy weight until he started secondary school where they can buy whatever they want for lunch.  You can't, as a parent, let your kid eat whatever so it gets fat, then call it fat. No, no no no. It's your own fault if you have a fat teenager and that's that.  It should be up to strangers to shout at it in the street, seems harsh but tough love works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nuimage   10 #19 Posted October 14, 2013 I'm not sure why you'd have to tell them particularly. As their parent you could simply reduce their portion size, and/or change their diet and deal with the situation without ever having to expressly tell them. It's unlikely that they're unaware of it though, other children are cruel and won't avoid calling them 'fatty' if they look it.  The delusion might be that the parents deny it, rather than that they don't tell the children directly.  Couldn't agree more.... surely if you're a responsible parent you do not 'overfeed' your little ones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
thursday   10 #20 Posted October 14, 2013 The 'fat' children I encountered (as a primary school teacher) had equally fat parents. A poor diet, together with an inactive lifestyle, creates a hard-to-break cycle. Fat children are more likely to hear it from their peers... who will then be in trouble for "bullying". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Moonbird   10 #21 Posted October 14, 2013 The 'fat' children I encountered (as a primary school teacher) had equally fat parents. A poor diet, together with an inactive lifestyle, creates a hard-to-break cycle. Fat children are more likely to hear it from their peers... who will then be in trouble for "bullying".  Why the eye rolling? it would indeed be bullying in my opinion and shouldn't be allowed, would 4 eyes be better, or ginger nut, or what ever snidey nasty name used to pick out a physical difference to cause shame?  No need to vilify a child or indeed anyone for their size, they need to be shown alternatives and a good reason for implementing them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Manlinose   10 #22 Posted October 14, 2013 Why the eye rolling? it would indeed be bullying in my opinion and shouldn't be allowed, would 4 eyes be better, or ginger nut, or what ever snidey nasty name used to pick out a physical difference to cause shame? No need to vilify a child or indeed anyone for their size, they need to be shown alternatives and a good reason for implementing them.  as a four eyed ginger nut (at least until most of my hair waved bye bye) i was called far worse names at school than can be used on this forum  i'm not sure i ever considered myself as being bullied - and it certainly never caused me any "shame" - but times change i suppose  but, as with most things where children are concerned - it's the parents that need sorting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
angos   10 #23 Posted October 14, 2013 SHOULD YOU EVER TELL YOUR CHILD THEY'RE FAT? Last week obesity specialist Alan Jackson published an article claiming that he regularly meets 'deluded families every week' that would not dare call their children fat, even though they are clearly overweight. He feels that it is about time we stopped cloaking the problem with evasive language, and avoiding the 'F' word. Katie Hopkins agrees with this and says that as a parent we should communicate the facts to our children because ultimately, if they're overweight, it is a parents fault to begin with. On the other hand, Sonia Poulton believes that a child should never be told they are overweight as it will mentally affect them, and that it is unfair of a parent to put their child through this. With a third of children in the UK overweight or obese, we ask the question - is it a parent's duty to tell your child that they are fat? Let us know what YOU think!    http://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152003552162122&id=81985202121&refid=8&_ft_=qid.5934561196902955810%3Amf_story_key.3066835140595544979  Its a disgrace telling our children they are fat will only lead to more eating problems If your child is fat then you don't care enough about it to worry about it, so the question is moot, and if you care about it, they won't be fat so again the question is moot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mikeye   10 #24 Posted October 14, 2013 This was a topic on TV today... Katie Hopkins v Sonia Poulton.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAdGCvADt5w  I quite like Katie, she's entertaining... Sonia is also entertaining and used to be my "friend" on FaceBook, but she deleted me when I rubbed her up the wrong way... I have the knack for that lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...