More bad news for Balls and Miliband as unemployment continues to fall

[vinyl 10]

The BBC report on the figures says;

 

"Average pay rose by 1.1% including bonuses compared with the same time last year, or 1.0% excluding them, which is well below the 2.8% rate at which prices are rising.

 

So although employment is up people are still worse off as their pay fails to keep up with inflation. Also

 

"However, the number of people in part-time work rose to 1.45 million, the highest since records began in 1992 and double the number of five years ago.

 

Almost a third of men working part-time were doing so because they could not find full-time employment. The corresponding figure for women was 13.5%.

 

The OP may like to think that falling unemployment will automatically mean votes for the Tories but that might not necessarily be the case.

 

Well if the last government hadn't run up £1000, billion in debt we would have money to spend now.

 

It is interesting how the opinion polls have reacted to the turn round of the UK economy, particularly as regards Ball & Miliband's credibility.

[LeMaquis 10]

Well if the last government hadn't run up £1000, billion in debt we would have money to spend now.

 

It is interesting how the opinion polls have reacted to the turn round of the UK economy, particularly as regards Ball & Miliband's credibility.

 

You could try and substantiate your arguments with a link or two. There is no guarantee that an improving economy will benefit the Tories. The economy improved massively in the years up to 1997 but Major was still responsible for the worst Tory vote of the 20th century.

 

Recent opinion polls show the Tories averaging in the low 30s and Labour in the high 30s. There is no feel-good factor as yet and if people are worse off in 2 years time because their pay is not keeping up with inflation there still won't be.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18264385

[whiteowl 54]

I'm still amazed that people believe anything that ANY Government says about unemployment figures. They've always been massaged for as long as I can remember.

[vinyl 10]

You could try and substantiate your arguments with a link or two. There is no guarantee that an improving economy will benefit the Tories. The economy improved massively in the years up to 1997 but Major was still responsible for the worst Tory vote of the 20th century.

 

Recent opinion polls show the Tories averaging in the low 30s and Labour in the high 30s. There is no feel-good factor as yet and if people are worse off in 2 years time because their pay is not keeping up with inflation there still won't be.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18264385

 

I don't need out of date links as I'm not the one trying to delude myself. As the figures only came out yesterday a more up to date poll might help.

 

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3263/Labour-lead-of-three-points-as-Milibands-personal-ratings-fall-to-lowest-ever.aspx

 

 

CON 34 (+4); LAB 37 (-3); LIB DEM 10 (n/c); UKIP 11 (n/c)

 

The latest Ipsos MORI Political Monitor shows a softening in Labour’s lead to just three points over the Conservatives. Meanwhile, Ed Miliband’s personal ratings continue their downward trend over the year.

 

Six in ten (60%) British adults say they are dissatisfied with Ed Miliband, while 24% are satisfied. His net satisfaction rating of -36 (% satisfied minus % dissatisfied) is his lowest ever, in line with the lowest scored by Iain Duncan-Smith and William Hague (-37).

 

Even among Labour supporters he has negative ratings, with 52% of Labour supporters dissatisfied with his performance and 40% satisfied. This is his lowest rating among his own supporters Ipsos MORI has recorded since he became leader.

 

The poll also shows that the public is less likely to attribute some key leadership qualities to Mr Miliband than to Mr Cameron. Almost twice as many people think Mr Cameron is a capable leader as think the same of Mr Miliband (53% and 28% respectively). Similarly, Mr Cameron is seen as the best leader in a crisis. 47% say Mr Cameron is good in a crisis compared with 20% who say the same of Mr Miliband.

Edited September 11, 2013 by vinyl

[Happ Hazzard 10]

The thing is, Labour don't have anyone better waiting in the wings. Miliband is the best they have.

[purdy 10]

The thing is, Labour don't have anyone better waiting in the wings. Miliband is the best they have.

 

Surely they can't all be that bad. Margaret Hodge always strikes me as pretty capable. But I suppose the way Labour appoints a leader will always leave them with an Ed.

[WeX 10]

Is it falling though or are they massaging the figures by shifting thousands into work programmes which take them off the "official" unemployed figures.

 

Could it also be those students that claim JSA between leaving school and going onto university?

 

Could it also be those thousands of disabled people who got booted onto JSA because of ATOS and now they're being put back on to ESA because the tribunal system is overturning ATOS/DWP rulings.

 

That's a bit wrong, people on work schemes who are still claiming JSA are part of any figures as they count the claimants.

[LeMaquis 10]

I don't need.... blah blah blah.....

 

All well and good but none of it has anything to do with unemployment falling. Yes Miliband is about as convincing a potential PM as Stevie Wonder is an air traffic controller but it doesn't mean a few more jobs will help the Tories. Miliband staying as Labour leader will but even then the Tories still might not get a majority. As your link says;

 

"Three in ten (32%) Britons are satisfied with the way the government is running the country while 60% are dissatisfied, exactly the same as last month."

[Uptowngirl 10]

All well and good but none of it has anything to do with unemployment falling. Yes Miliband is about as convincing a potential PM as Stevie Wonder is an air traffic controller but it doesn't mean a few more jobs will help the Tories. Miliband staying as Labour leader will but even then the Tories still might not get a majority. As your link says;

 

"Three in ten (32%) Britons are satisfied with the way the government is running the country while 60% are dissatisfied, exactly the same as last month."

 

I would hazzard a guess that come 2015 the economy and people's prospects will look a whole lot rosier than they did in 2010. We will be going into an election in a rather different economic climate and the choice folk will be faced with will be Cameron or Milliband.

[Tradescanthia 10]

Figures out today show unemployment is down yet again and the number working continues at record levels. This is in sharp contrast to much of the rest of the EU and the Eurozone where aunemployment is 50% higher than here, and a further blow to Balls & Miliband who are now struggling to promote their plan B.

 

Go and bore some one else......ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Mecky 10]

Just read that on the BBC, which is what 7.7 from 7.8%. What is that in numbers? 24,000 it says ... big deal. It was up last month. Part-time jobs have increased.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24045546

[Hillpig 10]

Cant one of you give some credit to the government? They have, despite all the critics, started to see some benefit from their efforts, all you do is carp complain, shout "fix". Call them idiots criminals, not one of you makes a positive contribution.

 

Pathetic.