spider1 Â Â 11 #25 Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) If Pilon is in Carterknowle then it hasn't stopped yet, there's been one going off here since yesterday!!! Â Why dont they say were it is and/ has it been sorted // I am a sparkie gave them advice no answer . If in S13 would have called round and sorted it./ PLEASE HELP ? ?? Â ---------- Post added 11-08-2013 at 23:40 ---------- Â If Pilon is in Carterknowle then it hasn't stopped yet, there's been one going off here since yesterday!!! Edited August 11, 2013 by spider1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pilon   10 #26 Posted August 12, 2013 Thanks everyone - apologies for not getting back to you.  Managed to disconnect the battery in the end. We're still without upstairs lighting, but at least we managed to shut it down! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spider1   11 #27 Posted August 12, 2013 Thanks everyone - apologies for not getting back to you. Managed to disconnect the battery in the end. We're still without upstairs lighting, but at least we managed to shut it down!  Disconecting a battery on a hard wired systymn would NOT shut it down. :hihi: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
raymondo1952 Â Â 11 #28 Posted August 12, 2013 iam just explaining what I did when my alarm kept on continuous, never had to touch the bell box outside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
phawley   10 #29 Posted August 12, 2013 Disconecting a battery on a hard wired systymn would NOT shut it down. :hihi:  Why? he has lost power to the panel, disconnected the internal battery and the external backup in the bell box will be well flat by now so what will be powering it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JButts   10 #30 Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Blimey! Right, if the member has lost power to the control box the system will automatically switch feed to an internal 12v backup battery. Depending on the Ah size of the battery, the system will remain unaffected until this battery starts to run out (the speed of this will depend on how many other power hungry devices are hooked into the system such as movement detectors or external keypads). Separate to this, the external sounder has a smaller battery inside it which makes a full alarm sound when the cable is cut, problem is that the bell doesn't know the difference between the power from the control panel disappearing and an attack on the building! This type of sounder is called a Self Actuating Unit. Now, the only way the sounder can be stopped is in 2 ways, firstly, reinstate the mains power into the control box and reset the system or secondly disconnect or remove the battery from the sounder. If neither of these actions can be done, the sounder will go off until the little inbuilt battery within the sounder has discharged (and this does not stick to the 20 minute rule). Now, before anybody wants to chuck in their 'twopenneth', let's not cloud this issue and confuse those that find themselves in this horrible and often upsetting situation. Whilst there are several other types of control panel that may not work quite like this, 99% of them do...  As previously mentioned, if you can't get to the bell box or external sounder, you will need to call an alarm system engineer. I hope this helps! Edited August 13, 2013 by JButts Aha, too early and brain not in gear... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
phawley   10 #31 Posted August 13, 2013 Blimey! Right, if the member has lost power to the control box the system will automatically switch feed to an internal 12v backup battery. Depending on the Ah size of the battery, the system will remain unaffected until this battery starts to run out (the speed of this will depend on how many other power hungry devices are hooked into the system such as movement detectors or external keypads). Separate to this, the external sounder has a smaller battery inside it which makes a full alarm sound when the cable is cut, problem is that the bell doesn't know the difference between the power from the control panel disappearing and an attack on the building! This type of sounder is called a Self Actuating Unit. Now, the only way the sounder can be stopped is in 2 ways, firstly, reinstate the mains power into the control box and reset the system or secondly disconnect or remove the battery from the sounder. If neither of these actions can be done, the sounder will go off until the little inbuilt battery within the sounder has discharged (and this does not stick to the 20 minute rule). Now, before anybody wants to chuck in their 'twopenneth', let's not cloud this issue and confuse those that find themselves in this horrible and often upsetting situation. Whilst there are several other types of control panel that may not work quite like this, 99% of them do... As previously mentioned, if you can't get to the bell box or external sounder, you will need to call an alarm system engineer. I hope this helps!  All correct and bearing in mind that the panel lost power on the 10th and yesterday was the 12th the SAB battery will have been flat for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JButts   10 #32 Posted August 13, 2013 I realise this and posted so others might benefit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
phawley   10 #33 Posted August 13, 2013 :thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JButts   10 #34 Posted August 13, 2013 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...