JanetJ123 Â Â 10 #517 Posted August 13, 2013 I don't see it as racist not to support foreign aid. If we spend the money here it will benefit all the population, many of them are black, Asian or whatever. So surely the stopping of foreign aid can be seen as a positive action for minority groups already here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dosxuk   10 #518 Posted August 13, 2013 Where does this idea come from that if we stop foreign aid, then we'll have more money to spend here?  If we stopped foreign aid completely, the best things that we could do with the money is reduce our deficit. The most likely thing is it'll be squandered on more quangos, duck houses for MPs and business bribes for the already rich. It's not going to end up keeping pensioners warm or children fed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #519 Posted August 13, 2013 I don't see it as racist not to support foreign aid. If we spend the money here it will benefit all the population, many of them are black, Asian or whatever. So surely the stopping of foreign aid can be seen as a positive action for minority groups already here?   I agree, but when you say "stop sending money to *******" that's a whole new ball game, because effectively that's what he's done. Foreign aid is a very complex..all countries do it. What this sad excuse for the human species has done is reduce it to racism and bigotry.  Regardless of the issues regarding aid, this man is not worthy of anyone's respect...unless you're one of the few supporters with his views posting on this thread. The racists and bigots on here see him as a sign of authority, so therefore what he says must hold water simply because he says something the way they think.  ---------- Post added 13-08-2013 at 23:07 ----------  Because "Bongo Bongo land" has more resonance? Would we be talking about him 2 weeks later on a 21 page thread if he had said "some corrupt leaders in Africa"?  Would you approach a 6' 2" Black guy from Firvale and tell him his kind aint getting no more money sent to Bongo bongo land.  And while yer doing it do it with "resonance". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andygardener   10 #520 Posted August 13, 2013 I agree, but when you say "stop sending money to *******" that's a whole new ball game, because effectively that's what he's done. Foreign aid is a very complex..all countries do it. What this sad excuse for the human species has done is reduce it to racism and bigotry. Regardless of the issues regarding aid, this man is not worthy of anyone's respect...unless you're one of the few supporters with his views posting on this thread. The racists and bigots on here see him as a sign of authority, so therefore what he says must hold water simply because he says something the way they think  Would you approach a 6' 2" Black guy from Firvale and tell him his kind aint getting no more money sent to Bongo bongo land.  And while yer doing it do it with "resonance".  What utter rubbish. Make up stuff he hasn't said and then demand people go and say the rubbish you made up to a big black man with the inference he'd employ physical violence.  Has to be the worst "logical" argument I've ever seen on here. Utter disgrace. You should be ashamed. Damn bad show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
boyfriday   21 #521 Posted August 13, 2013 Would you approach a 6' 2" Black guy from Firvale and tell him his kind aint getting no more money sent to Bongo bongo land. And while yer doing it do it with "resonance".  I'm a 6ft 3 black guy originally from Firvale (Skinnerthorpe Road) if that helps..and I always do 'it' with resonance, and it's not a pretty sight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #522 Posted August 13, 2013 What utter rubbish. Make up stuff he hasn't said and then demand people go and say the rubbish you made up to a big black man with the inference he'd employ physical violence.  Yeah, like the racists and bigots don't see Black guys other than sportsmen, drug pushers and gun wielding thugs..doing it all to a bit of rap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andygardener   10 #523 Posted August 13, 2013 Yeah, like the racists and bigots don't see Black guys other than sportsmen, drug pushers and gun wielding thugs..doing it all to a bit of rap.  So you were posting nonsense backed up with a stereotype to prove what? Sorry i'm not seeing what "point" you think you've made other than making yourself look odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #524 Posted August 13, 2013 So you were posting nonsense backed up with a stereotype to prove what? Sorry i'm not seeing what "point" you think you've made other than making yourself look odd.  The point is when some racist ass comes on a thread and reckons some idiot of an MEP said "bongo bongo" because it had "resonance" rather than mindless blatant racism then I'll throw any stereotype I like which racists by their very nature get all pissy pants about.  You want to defend his issue with foreign aid? You go right ahead. You want to apologise for his racist comments? you go right ahead.  The thing is I don't care if you think he isn't racist, I know he is, simply by the words he uttered and the very nature of the lump.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SpikeMac   10 #525 Posted August 13, 2013 The point is when some racist ass comes on a thread and reckons some idiot of an MEP said "bongo bongo" because it had "resonance" rather than mindless blatant racism then I'll throw any stereotype I like which racists by their very nature get all pissy pants about.  You want to defend his issue with foreign aid? You go right ahead. You want to apologise for his racist comments? you go right ahead.  The thing is I don't care if you think he isn't racist, I know he is, simply by the words he uttered and the very nature of the lump..  Godfrey is demonstrably a racist, sexist, pisss head.  Yet we all have to pay for him to be unpleasant in public office. That is a disgrace in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andygardener   10 #526 Posted August 13, 2013 The point is when some racist ass comes on a thread and reckons some idiot of an MEP said "bongo bongo" because it had "resonance" rather than mindless blatant racism then I'll throw any stereotype I like which racists by their very nature get all pissy pants about.  You want to defend his issue with foreign aid? You go right ahead. You want to apologise for his racist comments? you go right ahead.  The thing is I don't care if you think he isn't racist, I know he is, simply by the words he uttered and the very nature of the lump..  I don't defend his issue with foreign aid, I applaud someone speaking out on my issue with foreign aid which is that it is madness for our government to borrow money to give it away while trying to save money. Further charity, and that is what we are talking about, is the perogative of the individual and not a delegated authority to politicians in government to grandstand with and use for political ends.   The sort of people who would ignore that very serious issue over what phrase he used to describe corrupt african hellholes I don't think should be anywhere near the levers of power because they are incapable of basic harm analisys, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SpikeMac   10 #527 Posted August 13, 2013   The sort of people who would ignore that very serious issue over what phrase he used to describe corrupt african hellholes I don't think should be anywhere near the levers of power because they are incapable of basic harm analisys,  Overlooking your lack of capability of using basic spellchecker functionality.  Do you think that our commitment to foreign aid might possibly be driven by self interest, rather than altruism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #528 Posted August 13, 2013 I don't defend his issue with foreign aid, I applaud someone speaking out on my issue with foreign aid which is that it is madness for our government to borrow money to give it away while trying to save money. Further charity, and that is what we are talking about, is the perogative of the individual and not a delegated authority to politicians in government to grandstand with and use for political ends.  The sort of people who would ignore that very serious issue over what phrase he used to describe corrupt african hellholes I don't think should be anywhere near the levers of power because they are incapable of basic harm analisys,  Basic harm analysis? You seriously have to be kidding? Bongo Bongo land isn't specific to a country or even a person, it covers the whole of the African sub continent and its people. It so happens we do business with almost all of the African sub continent, we also have nationals living in the UK from all over Africa and you call it "basic".  Of course you defend his issue, his issue is your issue, which actually isn't a problem. He comes as a racist package though..never read you attacking him on that issue as an anti-racist. You are anti-racist I gather? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...