angos   10 #481 Posted August 13, 2013 That's a policy of every party. Pensions go up every year. No party is going to stand on the platform of cutting pensions and pension credit unless they want to lose.  They usually rise in line with inflation, so not really a rise, UKIP policy is to raise them above inflation to give pensioners more spending power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Peer Gynt   10 #482 Posted August 13, 2013 They usually rise in line with inflation, so not really a rise, UKIP policy is to raise them above inflation to give pensioners more spending power.  Exactly, now you'll be called a racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JanetJ123 Â Â 10 #483 Posted August 13, 2013 I feel the governments new benefit rules are partly to tackle immigration. By stealth really. Â There'll be little point in anyone under 25 coming here when the new HB rule that no-one under twenty five can claim comes in. The other rules will affect new arrivals hard as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Zamo   10 #484 Posted August 13, 2013 You're quite right, his opinion is not invalidated simply because he's a racist misogynist, but it does make me think very carefully about how he's forming these opinions, particularly when they directly involve foreigners who he's just demonstrated a prejudice against... (Or indeed if they were about women).  He was disparaging towards foreign countries receiving aid but where is the demonstration of prejudice? It isn't difficult to point to countless rational and valid reasons for disrespecting how these countries conduct their affairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Owethemnowt   10 #485 Posted August 13, 2013 bongo bongo gets it reported.  What he said is actually true but not news.  And he does speak what a lot of people think but you can't even have the debate any more as the race card is waved and we're all sent off.  The Britain I see out of my window isn't one I recognise anymore. It's not improved, it's not safer and it's awash with higher levels of crime.  Kids are snatched from their homes and to what purpose? The police can't speak of it, the media can't fill in the details and it's all because ...... and I can't write it because it's an automatic ban.  PC gone mad.  Britain gone to the dogs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
LeMaquis   10 #486 Posted August 13, 2013 They usually rise in line with inflation, so not really a rise, UKIP policy is to raise them above inflation to give pensioners more spending power.  Can you prove that? I googled UKIP pensions policy and got http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/UKIPpensions.pdf. When I clicked on that it doesn't exist, along with the rest of UKIP's welfare policies.  Another link about UKIP's pensions policy says it is ""Roll all state pensions and benefits into a simple, substantial citizen's pension." Uncosted."  From http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/special-report-what-voters-should-know-about-ukip-8517997.html.  You seem to be inventing UKIP's policies for them.  ---------- Post added 13-08-2013 at 15:50 ----------  Exactly, now you'll be called a racist.  Did you know it's not just white people who get pensions in the UK?  ---------- Post added 13-08-2013 at 15:52 ----------  And he does speak what a lot of people think but you can't even have the debate any more as the race card is waved and we're all sent off.  He also married a Pole and employs people from the Indian sub-continent so you may want to look elsewhere for a pro-white British patriot. Try Nick Griffin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
oldprune   10 #487 Posted August 13, 2013 He was disparaging towards foreign countries receiving aid but where is the demonstration of prejudice? It isn't difficult to point to countless rational and valid reasons for disrespecting how these countries conduct their affairs.  Spot on. If Bongo Bongo land exists you can guarantee that the poor won't be benefiting from our aid but at least the man in charge will have a suitable private jet as matches his status as an unelected despot who will do anything to rig elections and cling on to the trough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
angos   10 #488 Posted August 13, 2013 Can you prove that? I googled UKIP pensions policy and got http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/UKIPpensions.pdf. When I clicked on that it doesn't exist, along with the rest of UKIP's welfare policies. Another link about UKIP's pensions policy says it is ""Roll all state pensions and benefits into a simple, substantial citizen's pension." Uncosted."  From http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/special-report-what-voters-should-know-about-ukip-8517997.html.  You seem to be inventing UKIP's policies for them.   Or I read about it at some point in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dean1 Â Â 10 #489 Posted August 13, 2013 I have my opinion's on this thread, I am in the 'don't give' camp, our own come first !! But what I really like about this thread is the utter and complete defeat of the 'usual suspects' by Peer Gynt, namely Boil Friday, Fishface Halibut no but, but yes but, etc, Methlebel, aka Whitby Boy, and all the rest of the Left knicker wetter's, apologist's, etc, etc, Â Peer Gynt for Prime Minister !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
AdamSmith   10 #490 Posted August 13, 2013 I have my opinion's on this thread, I am in the 'don't give' camp, our own come first !! But what I really like about this thread is the utter and complete defeat of the 'usual suspects' by Peer Gynt, namely Boil Friday, Fishface Halibut no but, but yes but, etc, Methlebel, aka Whitby Boy, and all the rest of the Left knicker wetter's, apologist's, etc, etc,  Peer Gynt for Prime Minister !!!  we really need a like button on here:thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,609 #491 Posted August 13, 2013 I have my opinion's on this thread, I am in the 'don't give' camp, our own come first !! But what I really like about this thread is the utter and complete defeat of the 'usual suspects' by Peer Gynt, namely Boil Friday, Fishface Halibut no but, but yes but, etc, Methlebel, aka Whitby Boy, and all the rest of the Left knicker wetter's, apologist's, etc, etc, Â Peer Gynt for Prime Minister !!! Â your easily pleased. Â And why is it whenever anyone says 'our own first', you just know they'd be first in the queue to smear those in need as 'doleys' and 'scroungers' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48 Â Â 95 #492 Posted August 13, 2013 Â Peer Gynt for Prime Minister !!! Fat chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...