foxy lady   10 #385 Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) once contracts are exchanged the only litigation would be with the vendor not the purchaser  A bit like buying a stolen car or other stolen property. Buyer beware because the man can come and take it away. I could sell you Buckingham Palace for £50 million. But as I don't have the right to sell it you wouldn't get to evict those living there. It would then be up to you to try to get your money back. Edited January 18, 2016 by foxy lady Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dubaidani13   10 #386 Posted January 19, 2016 Until a judge reverses the sale.  we will see, as i said before the councils lawyers will have and will be making sure this is legally watertight and if its not we will see the lot withdrawn.  ---------- Post added 19-01-2016 at 09:04 ----------  A bit like buying a stolen car or other stolen property. Buyer beware because the man can come and take it away. I could sell you Buckingham Palace for £50 million. But as I don't have the right to sell it you wouldn't get to evict those living there. It would then be up to you to try to get your money back.  er its not stolen:roll: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eric Arthur   10 #387 Posted January 19, 2016 the councils lawyers will have and will be making sure this is legally watertight You think? Caveat emptor as they say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
richkent   10 #388 Posted January 19, 2016 er its not stolen:roll:  It belongs to the people of Sheffield. The council are attempting to steal it from us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dubaidani13 Â Â 10 #389 Posted January 19, 2016 It belongs to the people of Sheffield. The council are attempting to steal it from us. Â really??? i think you will find it doesnt soon:roll: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jonny5 Â Â 10 #390 Posted January 19, 2016 we will see, as i said before the councils lawyers will have and will be making sure this is legally watertight and if its not we will see the lot withdrawn.If that doesn't put you off nothing will. SCC's lawyers cost them (OK us) a fortune over the Sevenstone/Hammerson fiasco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
foxy lady   10 #391 Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) If that doesn't put you off nothing will. SCC's lawyers cost them (OK us) a fortune over the Sevenstone/Hammerson fiasco.  There is some good news here. I have read through the obligations of charity trustees. It would appear that it is they who are personally liable to make restitution to the charity should it be deemed that they acted in any way disadvantageos to the charity's aims and interests.  The trustees of the Graves Park Charity are required to forget that they are Sheffield councillors when acting for the charity. So as trustees they would be liable themselves rather than the bill going to the council tax payers. Sheffield Council do not own the park so the buck stops with the trustees. I do hope they are rich. Edited January 19, 2016 by foxy lady Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Roger123W Â Â 10 #392 Posted January 19, 2016 They are nibbling away at Graves Park like crazy ! Its only a matter of time before its all gone for development :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
1978 Â Â 14 #393 Posted January 20, 2016 It's a shame only solicitors are going to win on this. Â If the Friends had started raising the funds to buy the building as their base 2 years ago many would probably have chipped in and the council would have waited. In fact they have waited and it's only when the property is almost at auction that anything like a viable business proposition is being prepared. It saddens me that so much effort is now being spent on a very hard case, when it could be being spent helping decide how to spend the sale proceeds for the benefit of the park and it's users. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
foxy lady   10 #394 Posted January 20, 2016 It's a shame only solicitors are going to win on this.  If the Friends had started raising the funds to buy the building as their base 2 years ago many would probably have chipped in and the council would have waited. In fact they have waited and it's only when the property is almost at auction that anything like a viable business proposition is being prepared. It saddens me that so much effort is now being spent on a very hard case, when it could be being spent helping decide how to spend the sale proceeds for the benefit of the park and it's users.  As the covenant says any money raised must be used to buy replacement land of equal amenity value to the park the options aren't huge. However it looks like it could cost more in legal expenses than a sale would raise even if one is allowed. So it is very unlikely there needs to be a discussion about how to spend the ill gotten loot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
remyrobson   10 #395 Posted January 21, 2016 https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/out--about/parks-woodlands--countryside/cobnar-cottage.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WarPig   78 #396 Posted January 22, 2016 The friends of Graves Park crowdfunding needs to raise £10,000 by Monday to try and halt the sale of Cobnar Cottage, please donate what you can to help..  https://crowdfunding.justgiving.com/Friends-of-Graves-Park Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...