No ebooks allowed at Upperthorpe swimming pool

[docrobin 10]

Benjy - I've PM'd you (with a little help from someone who actually knows how to use the forum). As mentioned there, please feel free to repost anything in it you think appropriate.

 

As far as the airline ban on devices goes, it is off topic, but for anyone who is interested in that, have a look at the Wall Street Journal article (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323300004578557683978941640.html) which suggests this is likely to be relaxed soon.

 

I didn't know I could/should close the thread (maybe someone can tell me how?) If so, I'd like to let it run for a couple more days, so that any latecomers get their say, and then do it?

[onlineo 10]

Some people have some good points on reasons why they should not allow e-readers at swimming pools. I think all the points are very minor and are non issues. The only rule they need is no photos. Banning phones, tablets and e-readers because they may be a tablet it plain ridiculous.

[top4718 838]

Some people have some good points on reasons why they should not allow e-readers at swimming pools. I think all the points are very minor and are non issues. The only rule they need is no photos. Banning phones, tablets and e-readers because they may be a tablet it plain ridiculous.

 

They dont need this rule either.

[benjyp 10]

Benjy - I've PM'd you (with a little help from someone who actually knows how to use the forum). As mentioned there, please feel free to repost anything in it you think appropriate.

 

As far as the airline ban on devices goes, it is off topic, but for anyone who is interested in that, have a look at the Wall Street Journal article (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323300004578557683978941640.html) which suggests this is likely to be relaxed soon.

 

I didn't know I could/should close the thread (maybe someone can tell me how?) If so, I'd like to let it run for a couple more days, so that any latecomers get their say, and then do it?

 

I have to say I'm not sure why we are suddenly sending private messages to each other now but sure, I'll check it out later if I can remember where to access them and reply back. All sounds very mysterious.

 

Regarding the airline ban being relaxed I thought I was the one who told you about that in one of my previous posts to you - or am I going crazy?

 

Off topic? That's fine you don't have to answer it if you don't want to. I just thought because there were some obvious parallels with the point(s) you are trying to make. i.e. Blanket ban in place but not all the devices will have the desired impact in question. e.g. Why can't we use a Gameboy SP Advance on a plane?

Plus you said you were naturally curious and always wanted to find why things are the way they are or need to change them (or something like that). So I thought it would be useful to know if you would have challenge them as you are with the swimming pool rules - I thought that was a fair point.

 

Sure it's your post you can do what you want with it I merely made a suggestion. To close it I think you report it as the original poster to the website administrators then request it to be closed. Hope you achieve whatever tangible results you are looking for.

 

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Nope, just checked definitely don't have anything from you docrobin.

 

I only have 5 messages (two from SF notice, 2 from nikki and 1 from claire) I have 5 messages stored with a total of 35 allowed which the administrators should be able to verify. No other activity.

 

Can you recheck? or post on here? I'll contact the administrators in case there is a problem with the mail server or messaging system.

[Cyclone 10]

I think he means arguing for the sake of it, refusing to back down or accept that people have different opinions, where both may be right, both may be wrong.

 

You have a couple of threads on the go where you're like this Cyclone, you have to have the last word.

 

It's not me that's arguing with the OP though. Look to the beam in your eye and all that.

 

Out of interest, which post of mine was "going on"?

 

Don't tell me, you think it's the one where I imply that it's pretty stupid to think that a dropped ebook would smash and cause a hazard to feet? Or is it the one where I don't accept "won't somebody think of the children" as a valid argument? Because those are the two points which I've argued against.

 

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My child attends swimming lessons at Zest. When I saw the signs banning mobile phones etc. at poolside, do you know what I did? I took a book. Problem solved.

 

Did I feel I was being subjugated by the nanny state? No. Did I feel my civil liberties were being infringed? No. Rather I saw it as a sensible precaution taken by the pool, and an opportunity for me to get re-acquainted with a much loved book.

 

There isn't a problem. The reason this whole thing has dragged on for 10 (ten!) pages here is because of outraged keyboard warriors who take any possible opportunity to vent their spleen at the world. Get over it. Move on.

 

In what way was it sensible?

 

---------- Post added 25-07-2013 at 17:29 ----------

 

I would humbly suggest there are bigger issues to get excited about. But hey, it's your life. Spend your time as you wish.

 

You're spending your time telling other people what issues you think they should care about... Perhaps there are bigger things that you should worry about?

 

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HOW ABSOLUTELY ANAL!!!!!! With all the problems in this world and we get issues like this!!!!.....it is apparent that there is the capability to put time and energy into an issue but could it not be something a little more worth while rather than..."I`m not allowed my ebook" boo hooooo, grow up and get a grip!!!

 

And yet you manage to find time to post rather rudely on this thread. The level of irony is amazing.

 

---------- Post added 25-07-2013 at 17:32 ----------

 

I have to say I'm not sure why we are suddenly sending private messages to each other now but sure, I'll check it out later if I can remember where to access them and reply back. All sounds very mysterious.

 

Regarding the airline ban being relaxed I thought I was the one who told you about that in one of my previous posts to you - or am I going crazy?

 

Off topic? That's fine you don't have to answer it if you don't want to. I just thought because there were some obvious parallels with the point(s) you are trying to make. i.e. Blanket ban in place but not all the devices will have the desired impact in question. e.g. Why can't we use a Gameboy SP Advance on a plane?

Because in the distant past, somebody thought that a mobile phone might possibly interfere with the electronics and kill everybody on board. This was then extended to all electronic devices on take off and landing.

Most intelligent passengers realise that it isn't true at all.

[docrobin 10]

Benjyp - nothing mysterious about the PM, here it is in full:

(btw it didn't get to you, because I couldn't work the system properly)

 

Benjyp,

 

Thanks your last reply, and I appreciate the time you took for a considered response. In the interests of not taking the thread off topic, I hope you don't mind a personal message, but please feel free to repost any or all of it on the thread if you think its appropriate.

 

I'm much more of a reader than a writer, and so although I sometimes read the forum, I haven't posted before. I believe my wife is active on it and has posted more mundane questions for me in the past, but I always thought there was a chance of backlash on this question, and so (finally) created my own account so that any negative feedback came my way.

 

I'm afraid I don't know the appropriate etiquette for these forums, so I guess I did just expect the moderators to manage the thread, rather than taking any responsibility myself. If that was incorrect, then I apologise, and if you can point me towards a guide for these sorts of things, then I would be grateful.

 

I have reread the initial posting, and while in retrospect it may be a bit brief, I still don't think its inflammatory in any way. The first paragraph outlines the facts of what happened (doesn't even express an opinion). The second paragraph may be a leading question, but outside 'go just a bit too far' there are no criticisms, and I've ensured that its not directed at any individual.

 

I've learnt a lot from the thread and my attempts to ascertain facts around it, and I would say I've definitely learnt to be even more cautious around the media! Yes, after the interview this morning I did raise concerns about the way it had been portrayed, and the fact they had not used the statements that they had spent the previous day getting. When I heard the approach they were using at the beginning of the show this morning, I realised it wasn't going quite the way I'd been promised, but as the saying goes, 'you make your bed, then you lay in it'. Hopefully I managed to get my point across and still slip in something positive, but so far I haven't heard what actually went out.

 

As far as electronic devices for take off and landing goes, I always ask questions :-) I don't fly often enough for it to be a huge inconvenience, but I have found that the rules vary a lot from country to country. I was lucky enough to share a trip with a pilot from Quantas who told me about the experiments they had done to actually determine risk. You might want to look at http://mashable.com/2013/06/21/phones-takoff-landing/ which reposts an article from the Wall Street Journal that these rules may be removed later in the year. As you say - there are lots of parallels, and in this case it sounds like a rethink did lead to a change.

 

Thanks again for the response; it was one of the most thoughtful I've had so far. I'll also be working late tonight to make up for emailing time, so I appreciate the time you took for me.

 

Regards,

 

Docrobin

Edited July 25, 2013 by docrobin

[sooz79 10]

LMFAO!!! Total Posts: 47,807!!!! wow some people really have nothing better to do, real keyboard warrior....rude I haven't been rude at all.......like I said before, how anal.....really does make me pmsl

Edited July 25, 2013 by sooz79
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[SevenRivers 10]

Best thing to do is just ignore it if you want to read your ebook.

[Lucy-Lastic 10]

LMFAO!!! Total Posts: 47,807!!!! wow some people really have nothing better to do, real keyboard warrior....rude I haven't been rude at all.......like I said before, how anal.....really does make me pmsl

 

Just read your Sig and you posted this...hmm. Neither of your posts are positive or helpful

[Cyclone 10]

LMFAO!!! Total Posts: 47,807!!!! wow some people really have nothing better to do, real keyboard warrior....rude I haven't been rude at all.......like I said before, how anal.....really does make me pmsl

 

You have been and continue to be, whilst posting on a thread on a subject which you think deserves no energy or time putting into it. Rude and hypocritical.

 

Re:keyboard warrior, do you even know what that means?

[benjyp 10]

Benjyp - nothing mysterious about the PM, here it is in full:

(btw it didn't get to you, because I couldn't work the system properly)

 

Benjyp,

 

Thanks your last reply, and I appreciate the time you took for a considered response. In the interests of not taking the thread off topic, I hope you don't mind a personal message, but please feel free to repost any or all of it on the thread if you think its appropriate.

 

I'm much more of a reader than a writer, and so although I sometimes read the forum, I haven't posted before. I believe my wife is active on it and has posted more mundane questions for me in the past, but I always thought there was a chance of backlash on this question, and so (finally) created my own account so that any negative feedback came my way.

 

I'm afraid I don't know the appropriate etiquette for these forums, so I guess I did just expect the moderators to manage the thread, rather than taking any responsibility myself. If that was incorrect, then I apologise, and if you can point me towards a guide for these sorts of things, then I would be grateful.

 

I have reread the initial posting, and while in retrospect it may be a bit brief, I still don't think its inflammatory in any way. The first paragraph outlines the facts of what happened (doesn't even express an opinion). The second paragraph may be a leading question, but outside 'go just a bit too far' there are no criticisms, and I've ensured that its not directed at any individual.

 

I've learnt a lot from the thread and my attempts to ascertain facts around it, and I would say I've definitely learnt to be even more cautious around the media! Yes, after the interview this morning I did raise concerns about the way it had been portrayed, and the fact they had not used the statements that they had spent the previous day getting. When I heard the approach they were using at the beginning of the show this morning, I realised it wasn't going quite the way I'd been promised, but as the saying goes, 'you make your bed, then you lay in it'. Hopefully I managed to get my point across and still slip in something positive, but so far I haven't heard what actually went out.

 

As far as electronic devices for take off and landing goes, I always ask questions :-) I don't fly often enough for it to be a huge inconvenience, but I have found that the rules vary a lot from country to country. I was lucky enough to share a trip with a pilot from Quantas who told me about the experiments they had done to actually determine risk. You might want to look at http://mashable.com/2013/06/21/phones-takoff-landing/ which reposts an article from the Wall Street Journal that these rules may be removed later in the year. As you say - there are lots of parallels, and in this case it sounds like a rethink did lead to a change.

 

Thanks again for the response; it was one of the most thoughtful I've had so far. I'll also be working late tonight to make up for emailing time, so I appreciate the time you took for me.

 

Regards,

 

Docrobin

 

Hi Docrobin,

 

Apologies for the delay in replying. In short went on holiday shortly after your post but kids now back in school last week and myself back at work (boo, rubbish!).

 

Thank you for your PM - thought it best to reply directly on the thread as well given your post. Looking back at your original post I feel I might have taken it too personally - obviously I take my oldest one there so I was trying to look at it from both sides (as a parent who wanted to read, what their rights were, etc. and as a parent who saw another parent breaking the rules, kicking up a fuss, possibly disrupting the classes, potential danger to others - not saying you were but there are people who like confrontations and those that doesn't if you know what I mean). Coupled with the fact do know the staff there and the rest of the work they do for the community and know who you are from other sources so I may have taken more of it to heart if it didn't impact me in one form or another.

 

Interestingly I see things have slightly moved on, we went recently since back and all the notices have been updated to 'electric devices' rather than specifically mention smartphones, tablets, etc. I wonder if this was a result of your feedback but at least a change was made to save any confusion.

 

B

[Cyclone 10]

So now there are no electronic devices allowed in the viewing gallery? Like a little slice of the middle ages or something.