Hillpig   10 #97 Posted July 14, 2013 Those many trips to middle east countries selling Defense mechanisms by Careron are paving the way to our prosperity. War is peace.  You criticize him for continuing a policy carried on by the previous administration, how do you justify this double standard.?  ---------- Post added 14-07-2013 at 08:51 ----------  Its that rise that was and still is the root cause of the UK's problems.  They inherited a very healthy economy from Clarke and Major, they maintained the Tory policies throughout their first term, that impetus took them through to, about 2004 when, to maintain momentum Brown started to borrow, when the crash came, we had no insufficient reserves due to Labour profligacy.  ---------- Post added 14-07-2013 at 08:55 ----------  If previous governments spent all the cash it's curious that Osborne still manages to obtain it. ---------- Post added 13-07-2013 at 18:14 ----------   I say it because Osborne is a disaster. I'll never tire of saying it because it's true.  Just because you repeat it doe not make it true, objectively, Osborne is doing a good job under very difficult circumstances. Balls has stated that, if elected Labour will maintain all Tory economic policies. That says everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dingus   10 #98 Posted July 14, 2013 To be completely fair about this are you also going to credit them for the rise between 1997-2008 as shown in the link below. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10613201  That would be rather like crediting a Grand Prix driver for managing 8 laps of a race before loosing control & hitting the barriers, or a builder for putting up 6 floors of a 13 storey block of flats before it collapsed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hillpig   10 #99 Posted July 14, 2013 That would be rather like crediting a Grand Prix driver for managing 8 laps of a race before loosing control & hitting the barriers, or a builder for putting up 6 floors of a 13 storey block of flats before it collapsed.  Brilliant, great illustration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dingus   10 #100 Posted July 14, 2013 You criticize him for continuing a policy carried on by the previous administration, how do you justify this double standard.? ---------- Post added 14-07-2013 at 08:51 ----------   They inherited a very healthy economy from Clarke and Major, they maintained the Tory policies throughout their first term, that impetus took them through to, about 2004 when, to maintain momentum Brown started to borrow, when the crash came, we had no insufficient reserves due to Labour profligacy.  ---------- Post added 14-07-2013 at 08:55 ----------   Just because you repeat it doe not make it true, objectively, Osborne is doing a good job under very difficult circumstances. Balls has stated that, if elected Labour will maintain all Tory economic policies. That says everything.  It would be interesting to know what he thinks of the chancellors in Germany, France, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Cyprus etc who have economies running in reverse whilst ours is growing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
maxmaximus   10 #101 Posted July 14, 2013 that would be rather like crediting a grand prix driver for managing 8 laps of a race before loosing control & hitting the barriers, or a builder for putting up 6 floors of a 13 storey block of flats before it collapsed.  ................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mecky   10 #102 Posted July 14, 2013 I think it is pretty well know that in the crash Britain crashed rather more than most. Brown & Darling managed a staggering 7.3% fall in GDP. There are few countries that can rival that. Perhaps you might ask one of the adults in your institution to find you some proper data for reference.  And I do believe I said for the nth why GDP is an unreliable figure and not the true state of the economy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dingus   10 #103 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) And I do believe I said for the nth why GDP is an unreliable figure and not the true state of the economy  Brown & Darling certainly left the economy in a state after their block of flats collapsed. So what would you think a reliable indication? How about the deficit between tax revenues and government spending?  I think the record figure for spending beyond your means was again down to Brown & Darling in 2009 with a staggering £159.6 billion overspend. Edited July 14, 2013 by Dingus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MadManMoon   10 #104 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Or to put it another way: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-blanchflower-george-osborne-has-ruined-1556720?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Edited July 14, 2013 by MadManMoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Titanic99   10 #105 Posted July 14, 2013 Brown & Darling certainly left the economy in a state after their block of flats collapsed. So what would you think a reliable indication? How about the deficit between tax revenues and government spending? I think the record figure for spending beyond your means was again down to Brown & Darling in 2009 with a staggering £159.6 billion overspend.  Well I'm sorry mate but when Brown and Darling left power I was personally considerably better off than when the previous administration left.  I would also add that when this current administration leaves office (hopefully) that I expect to be worse off than when they came to power.  I'm sorry that you haven't experienced the same, clearly you are doing so much better under this lot than the previous administration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #106 Posted July 14, 2013 You criticize him for continuing a policy carried on by the previous administration, how do you justify this double standard.? ---------- Post added 14-07-2013 at 08:51 ----------   They inherited a very healthy economy from Clarke and Major, they maintained the Tory policies throughout their first term, that impetus took them through to, about 2004 when, to maintain momentum Brown started to borrow, when the crash came, we had no insufficient reserves due to Labour profligacy.  ---------- Post added 14-07-2013 at 08:55 ----------   Just because you repeat it doe not make it true, objectively, Osborne is doing a good job under very difficult circumstances. Balls has stated that, if elected Labour will maintain all Tory economic policies. That says everything.  Objectively he's responsible for a long string of disasters. I can start listing them if you like and we can discuss each disaster point by point. Be prepared, it could take a long time.  ---------- Post added 14-07-2013 at 11:28 ----------  Its that rise that was and still is the root cause of the UK's problems.  So why is Osborne trying to re-inflate the housing bubble? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
maxmaximus   10 #107 Posted July 14, 2013 Objectively he's responsible for a long string of disasters. I can start listing them if you like and we can discuss each disaster point by point. Be prepared, it could take a long time. ---------- Post added 14-07-2013 at 11:28 ----------   So why is Osborne trying to re-inflate the housing bubble?  Probably because he's a dick.  Or perhaps to appease the idiots that think house prices should always go up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hillpig   10 #108 Posted July 14, 2013 It would be interesting to know what he thinks of the chancellors in Germany, France, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Cyprus etc who have economies running in reverse whilst ours is growing.  No doubt if they are socialists he will think they are doing a good job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...