alchresearch   214 #73 Posted July 9, 2013 Coincidentally I don't know anyone in the BNP or EDL either.  Do people really know the political affiliations of all their friends? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JFKvsNixon   11 #74 Posted July 9, 2013 And after speculation your point is?  That your defence of the policy was wide of the mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #75 Posted July 9, 2013 Coincidentally I don't know anyone in the BNP or EDL either. Your politics on the other hand are very close to those two far-right organisations given your consistent support for them which has now become support for UKIP too. What Labour has to do with this is irrelevant. Miliband is a very weak leader but at least he and his party don't support the introduction of charges to NHS patients at the point of delivery, even if they're soldiers who've been attacked after having a couple of drinks. You seem to have lost that argument.  Ukip on health,  POLICY  'What to do about the NHS?' is the most difficult domestic policy issue facing this generation. Failure to tackle it will mean that it continues to be an ever-growing problem for generations to come. UKIP's Health Policy provides a new way forward. http://www.ukip.org/issues/policy-pages/health Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
LeMaquis   10 #76 Posted July 9, 2013 Ukip on health, POLICY  'What to do about the NHS?' is the most difficult domestic policy issue facing this generation. Failure to tackle it will mean that it continues to be an ever-growing problem for generations to come. UKIP's Health Policy provides a new way forward. http://www.ukip.org/issues/policy-pages/health  UKIP leader Nigel Farage tweeted a link headed A UKIP health spokesman writes about A&E waiting times to the article I provided a link to which says that UKIP will bring in charges at A&E and GPs. That is a fact. Talking about Ed Miliband doesn't alter reality. Nor does the above link.  I do notice that at the top of that page of UKIP policy is an article by ex-Tory Neil Hamilton, the one who tried to persuade Thatcher to stay on as PM just before she resigned in 1990. From that I assume that when people have to pay at A&E and their GP they will have to hand over cash in a brown paper bag. The consultant will then ask a question in parliament on their behalf to bring back the Poll Tax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #77 Posted July 9, 2013 UKIP leader Nigel Farage tweeted a link headed A UKIP health spokesman writes about A&E waiting times to the article I provided a link to which says that UKIP will bring in charges at A&E and GPs. That is a fact. Talking about Ed Miliband doesn't alter reality. Nor does the above link. I do notice that at the top of that page of UKIP policy is an article by ex-Tory Neil Hamilton, the one who tried to persuade Thatcher to stay on as PM just before she resigned in 1990. From that I assume that when people have to pay at A&E and their GP they will have to hand over cash in a brown paper bag. The consultant will then ask a question in parliament on their behalf to bring back the Poll Tax.   You posted your link to try and make the brown stuff stick to a blanket,  Trying to take the heat off liebore by any chance? what a bent bunch they are turning out to be, illegal wars , ruining the economy, overloading the population, vote rigging, they'll be pinching milk off pensioners doorsteps next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MadManMoon   10 #78 Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) You posted your link to try and make the brown stuff stick to a blanket, Trying to take the heat off liebore by any chance? what a bent bunch they are turning out to be, illegal wars , ruining the economy, overloading the population, vote rigging, they'll be pinching milk off pensioners doorsteps next.  Don't know how many times I have to keep saying this, but the illegal war was voted for by the Tories.  The economy was growing when Labour left office Osborne quickly turned it into a recession then a double dip recession.   http://falseeconomy.org.uk/cure/what-do-the-experts-sayand Edited July 9, 2013 by MadManMoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna Glypta   10 #79 Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Don't know how many times I have to keep saying this, but the illegal war was voted for by the Tories.   Don't know how many times I've said this but Blair produced a dossier of lies which he put to parliament to get that support. MPs are supposed to be able to trust a prime minister who says that he needs to protect the intelligence sources. So your assertion that anyone supported the illegal war is false. They supported an attack based on a non existent threat that Blair dreamed up to gain their support.  ---------- Post added 09-07-2013 at 15:37 ----------   The economy was growing when Labour left office Osborne quickly turned it into a recession then a double dip recession.   http://falseeconomy.org.uk/cure/what-do-the-experts-sayand  There was a 7.3% dip in GDP in the last 3 years of the Labour government. That was the dip and the recession. There was no double dip. Edited July 9, 2013 by Anna Glypta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #80 Posted July 9, 2013 Don't know how many times I have to keep saying this, but the illegal war was voted for by the Tories. Except that: a. it wasn't "illegal" (probably meaning "unlawful") as it infracted no laws; and b. it wasn't a "war" either, as only the Head of State can declare war- and the P.M. is a mere Head of Government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Xt500   10 #81 Posted July 9, 2013 Don't know how many times I've said this but Blair produced a dossier of lies which he put to parliament to get that support. MPs are supposed to be able to trust a prime minister who says that he needs to protect the intelligence sources. So your assertion that anyone supported the illegal war is false. They supported an attack based on a non existent threat that Blair dreamed up to gain their support. ---------- Post added 09-07-2013 at 15:37 ----------   There was a 7.3% dip in GDP in the last 3 years of the Labour government. That was the dip and the recession. There was no double dip.  you dont really think Blair had enough brains to dream anything up do you? He did as the Americans told him to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
wednesday1   10 #82 Posted July 9, 2013 Don't know how many times I've said this but Blair produced a dossier of lies which he put to parliament to get that support. MPs are supposed to be able to trust a prime minister who says that he needs to protect the intelligence sources. So your assertion that anyone supported the illegal war is false. They supported an attack based on a non existent threat that Blair dreamed up to gain their support. ---------- Post added 09-07-2013 at 15:37 ----------   There was a 7.3% dip in GDP in the last 3 years of the Labour government. That was the dip and the recession. There was no double dip.   Yes there was a big dip as the World-wide credit crunch kicked in, but they had got the economy moving again with 5 quarters of growth........until the ConDems turned wiped the growth out and we have been flatlining ever since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Xt500 Â Â 10 #83 Posted July 9, 2013 Yes there was a big dip as the World-wide credit crunch kicked in, but they had got the economy moving again with 5 quarters of growth........until the ConDems turned wiped the growth out and we have been flatlining ever since. Â Ha ha Ill have a pint of that!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
wednesday1 Â Â 10 #84 Posted July 9, 2013 Ha ha Ill have a pint of that!! Â Â You Tories have never been keen on the truth! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...