UKIP - the real Tory party, just 1% behind official Tories

[wednesday1 10]

July 5th 2013

A Survation poll for the Daily Mirror shows UKIP support at 22%, just 1% below the Cons who's support is now at it's lowest for years, at just 23%. Support for the Conservatives friends the Lib Dems is 10%.

 

Even worse news for Cameron is that he is now even more unpopular than his party, with 22% saying they prefer the Cons to Smarmy Dave, whilst 18% prefer Smarmy Dave to the Cons.

 

I wonder what the Lib Dems would do if the Cons sought to form an electoral pact with UKIP before the election?

 

 

Survation poll for The Daily Mirror / ITV Daybreak on Friday 5 July. Topic: Public attitudes towards the NHS. Fieldwork: 3rd July. 1,085 UK respondents.

 

Headline Voting Intention Details (changes since June 2nd)

 

Conservative: 23% (-2%)

 

Labour: 36% (nc)

 

Liberal Democrats: 10% (nc)

 

UKIP: 22% (+2%)

 

Others: 10% (nc)

- See more at: http://survation.com/#sthash.9Yh6DE5R.dpuf

[MadManMoon 10]

July 5th 2013

A Survation poll for the Daily Mirror shows UKIP support at 22%, just 1% below the Cons who's support is now at it's lowest for years, at just 23%. Support for the Conservatives friends the Lib Dems is 10%.

 

Even worse news for Cameron is that he is now even more unpopular than his party, with 22% saying they prefer the Cons to Smarmy Dave, whilst 18% prefer Smarmy Dave to the Cons.

 

I wonder what the Lib Dems would do if the Cons sought to form an electoral pact with UKIP before the election?

 

 

Survation poll for The Daily Mirror / ITV Daybreak on Friday 5 July. Topic: Public attitudes towards the NHS. Fieldwork: 3rd July. 1,085 UK respondents.

 

Headline Voting Intention Details (changes since June 2nd)

 

Conservative: 23% (-2%)

 

Labour: 36% (nc)

 

Liberal Democrats: 10% (nc)

 

UKIP: 22% (+2%)

 

Others: 10% (nc)

- See more at: http://survation.com/#sthash.9Yh6DE5R.dpuf

 

 

The Tories now know they have no chance of winning next election. They will be fighting even to come second because You Kipp will split their vote.

 

Someone from Labour was recently asked if Labour would go into coalition with LibDems. She said there would be no point because after next election Libdems wouldn't have enough MPs to make it worthwhile.

[Vague_Boy 10]

The Tories now know they have no chance of winning next election.

 

Will this mean an end to the incessant NuLabia trolling on SF?

 

After all, if you've already got the next election in the bag, might as well put your feet up for the next 2 years.

[purdy 10]

July 5th 2013

A Survation poll for the Daily Mirror shows UKIP support at 22%, just 1% below the Cons who's support is now at it's lowest for years, at just 23%. Support for the Conservatives friends the Lib Dems is 10%.

 

Even worse news for Cameron is that he is now even more unpopular than his party, with 22% saying they prefer the Cons to Smarmy Dave, whilst 18% prefer Smarmy Dave to the Cons.

 

I wonder what the Lib Dems would do if the Cons sought to form an electoral pact with UKIP before the election?

 

 

Survation poll for The Daily Mirror / ITV Daybreak on Friday 5 July. Topic: Public attitudes towards the NHS. Fieldwork: 3rd July. 1,085 UK respondents.

 

Headline Voting Intention Details (changes since June 2nd)

 

Conservative: 23% (-2%)

 

Labour: 36% (nc)

 

Liberal Democrats: 10% (nc)

 

UKIP: 22% (+2%)

 

Others: 10% (nc)

- See more at: http://survation.com/#sthash.9Yh6DE5R.dpuf

 

 

It just goes to show that you can find a poll to say pretty much what you want it to say if you are selective enough, which you clearly are. Whether you actually believe what you find is a different matter.

 

Just to prove the point.

 

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/7s56wz19mg/YG-Archive-Pol-Sun-results-040713.pdf

 

Con 31

Lab 39

Lib Dem 11

Ukip 12

SNP 3

Green 2

BNP 1

Others 1

Respect 0

 

 

Incidentally I notice you neglected to include the caveats attached to your highlighted poll. Is there a particular reason for that as they seemed to explain why this poll had figures so different from all the others?

Edited July 6, 2013 by purdy

[Itinerary 10]

The Cons did not win the last election, they merely ceased power by default using a flawed electoral system. They are hardly likely to win the next election either after years of looking after their own and forcing the poor into homelessness and helplessness. Many deaths of the poor and helpless are on their hands.

[Funky_Gibbon 42]

Please go and read http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ for an explanation about why you shouldn't get all excited. And the same goes for all the Tory and UKIP supporters who do the same whenever a poll comes in that ostensibly looks bad for Labour.

[MadManMoon 10]

The Cons did not win the last election, they merely ceased power by default using a flawed electoral system. They are hardly likely to win the next election either after years of looking after their own and forcing the poor into homelessness and helplessness. Many deaths of the poor and helpless are on their hands.

 

And Tories are far less popular now than at last election and couldn't even win then despite a hate campaign against Gordon Brown from the right wing press. Won't work a second time.

Edited July 6, 2013 by MadManMoon

[purdy 10]

Please go and read http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ for an explanation about why you shouldn't get all excited. And the same goes for all the Tory and UKIP supporters who do the same whenever a poll comes in that ostensibly looks bad for Labour.

 

Perhaps it was compiled by Unite in Falkirk.

[altus 540]

From the Survation web site:

Welcome to Survation. Survation measures public opinion and attempts to reach accurate conclusions about what people really think.

 

Register using our simple sign-up form and start earning cash right now.

 

Your views & opinions mean a lot to us. We now pay cash for every survey you take, up to £2.50 per survey depending on time taken.

 

So not only are the participants self selected, which means you get a statistically unreliable sample, they get paid for taking part.

 

You could reasonably claim that the only thing this survey proves is that UKIP supporters are the most likely to take part in surveys when they can make money out of it.

[Mister M 1,625]

Will this mean an end to the incessant NuLabia trolling on SF?

 

After all, if you've already got the next election in the bag, might as well put your feet up for the next 2 years.

 

You liken a political party to female genitalia ('NuLabia'), then you complain about others trolling

 

All this heat must be frying your brain cell. Go indoors, shut the curtains, and scour the internet for some links to bore everybody with.

 

You'll feel like your normal self in no time

[Michael_W 11]

July 5th 2013

A Survation poll for the Daily Mirror shows UKIP support at 22%, just 1% below the Cons who's support is now at it's lowest for years, at just 23%. Support for the Conservatives friends the Lib Dems is 10%.

 

Even worse news for Cameron is that he is now even more unpopular than his party, with 22% saying they prefer the Cons to Smarmy Dave, whilst 18% prefer Smarmy Dave to the Cons.

 

I wonder what the Lib Dems would do if the Cons sought to form an electoral pact with UKIP before the election?

 

 

Survation poll for The Daily Mirror / ITV Daybreak on Friday 5 July. Topic: Public attitudes towards the NHS. Fieldwork: 3rd July. 1,085 UK respondents.

 

Headline Voting Intention Details (changes since June 2nd)

 

Conservative: 23% (-2%)

 

Labour: 36% (nc)

 

Liberal Democrats: 10% (nc)

 

UKIP: 22% (+2%)

 

Others: 10% (nc)

- See more at: http://survation.com/#sthash.9Yh6DE5R.dpuf

 

Wow another borefest of pasted data from the resident Labour spin doctor .... Labour are probably the most underhanded party in the country, a party that forgot about the real people it represents, slanted, backhanded politics which have let down this country ...... I only wish the good people of Sheffield woke up and stopped voting for them

[wednesday1 10]

It just goes to show that you can find a poll to say pretty much what you want it to say if you are selective enough, which you clearly are. Whether you actually believe what you find is a different matter.

 

Just to prove the point.

 

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/7s56wz19mg/YG-Archive-Pol-Sun-results-040713.pdf

 

Con 31

Lab 39

Lib Dem 11

Ukip 12

SNP 3

Green 2

BNP 1

Others 1

Respect 0

 

 

Incidentally I notice you neglected to include the caveats attached to your highlighted poll. Is there a particular reason for that as they seemed to explain why this poll had figures so different from all the others?

 

 

Thanks for that anarchist, It seems the main difference between Survation methods and the other polling firms, is that they include Ukip in their main prompt, which is of course how it will be in a General Election situation. Ukip voters tend to be old former Tory voters who perhaps forget about them unless prompted.

Do you think the Cons would be better off with a true Tory like Farage as leader?

 

---------- Post added 06-07-2013 at 12:03 ----------

 

It just goes to show that you can find a poll to say pretty much what you want it to say if you are selective enough, which you clearly are. Whether you actually believe what you find is a different matter.

 

Just to prove the point.

 

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/7s56wz19mg/YG-Archive-Pol-Sun-results-040713.pdf

 

Con 31

Lab 39

Lib Dem 11

Ukip 12

SNP 3

Green 2

BNP 1

Others 1

Respect 0

 

 

Incidentally I notice you neglected to include the caveats attached to your highlighted poll. Is there a particular reason for that as they seemed to explain why this poll had figures so different from all the others?

 

You liken a political party to female genitalia ('NuLabia'), then you complain about others trolling

 

All this heat must be frying your brain cell. Go indoors, shut the curtains, and scour the internet for some links to bore everybody with.

 

You'll feel like your normal self in no time

 

 

Yes, isn't old Baaaaaarnsley Bill classy!

 

---------- Post added 06-07-2013 at 12:05 ----------

 

Wow another borefest of pasted data from the resident Labour spin doctor .... Labour are probably the most underhanded party in the country, a party that forgot about the real people it represents, slanted, backhanded politics which have let down this country ...... I only wish the good people of Sheffield woke up and stopped voting for them

 

 

The good people of Sheffield have always rejected you BNP types, long may that hold.