The end of free treatment from the NHS.

[alchresearch 214]

Not all ordinary people are on benefits. They may be, for example, a struggling family with both parents woring to 'make ends meet', who have two children to feed and clothe. There is not much money left at the end of the month when the rent is paid, the council tax and utility bills are settled, transport is paid for, VAT paid at 20%...

 

Ordinary people are being systematically impoverished simultaneously with tax cuts for millionaires and a truly astonishing level of structured tax arranging by the wealtiest individuals and the corporations that employ them.

 

This is precisely my point alchresearch... there are calls for charges on NHS treatments, so that the poorest must pay or go without.

 

So how do you explain the fact that everyone gets free prescriptions in Wales and Scotland?

[deaf andy 10]

So how do you explain the fact that everyone gets free prescriptions in Wales and Scotland?

 

because they are benefit scroungers?

[Mecky 10]

So how do you explain the fact that everyone gets free prescriptions in Wales and Scotland?

 

So now you're saying everyone is Wales and Scotland are poor?

[Mister M 1,625]

There is a systematic project here in the UK to drive down wages, reduce staffing levels (which means increased unemployment), to use the minimum wage as a standard for salary policy, to deny access to higher education.

 

Ordinary people are being pushed into poverty, and poor people cannot afford to pay for healthcare.

 

Unless we defend our NHS and reverse the policies of privatisation and charges most of us shall be without basic healthcare here in the Uk, the home of the most famous health system in the world.

 

I think that what is happening in the US is indicative and worryingly an omen of what might happen here in the UK; that many working people and not necessarily poor, will end up in trailer parks.

I think they're the ones that are the most vulnerable to the three card trick.

[alchresearch 214]

So now you're saying everyone is Wales and Scotland are poor?

 

Nope. You really are desperate today aren't you? This is poor, even for you.

[Ms Macbeth 75]

because they are benefit scroungers?

 

Because the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly choose how they spend their money. I haven't got the time to investigate, but its just possible there are other things we get here in England that they go without.

 

We could start saving money in the NHS by properly charging health tourists; by having cash penalties for missed appointments (when there is no good reason); by refusing to treat people who haven't had an accident, and who don't have an emergency but who turn up at A & E and complain when they have to wait whilst real emergencies are dealt with.

Edited June 25, 2013 by Ms Macbeth

[deaf andy 10]

Because the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly choose how they spend their money.

 

and where do the scotch parliament and welsh assembly get the money which they choose how to spend? from all of us taxpayers in the united kingdom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_formula

 

good to note that they don't need to invoke the 'tartan tax' to be able to cover the cost of their prescriptions bill.

 

but its just possible there are other things we get here in England that they go without.

 

like sunshine and salad?

[Staunton 18]

This is not stirlingonline, neither is it wales.com, it is sheffieldforum, and here in the area covered by what has now been named NHS England, there are increasing calls for charges to be made for medical treatment.

 

I imagine the fact that there are so few tories with any influence in Scotland and Wales would suffice as reason why there is more socially oriented policy across the borders.

[Caddist 10]

David Cameron promised the "NHS is safe in our hands"; that he would "cut the deficit not the NHS" and put an end to "top down reorganisation".

 

That was part of his manifesto but he lied, in order to pursue his greed driven agenda.

 

In 2012, Conservative and Lib Dem Ministers "banged" the table at a cabinet meeting to mark the impending passing of the Health & Social Care Bill into law, but most of the people who voted were doing so after investing into the companies whom were to profit from this disgraceful decision, they were conflicted or I supposed bribed in a fashion.

 

It was a sad day, but not surprising given the track record of this disgusting government.

 

Words fail me, this government are nothing but greedy conmen looking after their own interests at the expense of a nation and all of it's people.

 

[Anna B 1,414]

It's simple

 

A PRIVATISED HEALTH INDUSTRY IS FOR MAKING PROFITS TO GIVE TO SHAREHOLDERS.

 

Do we want that? Surely it would be better to ensure that our NHS runs efficiently and to optimum capability. As Ms Macbeth says we can still make savings and deliver a good service if it's done right.

[Mr Bloom 10]

There is a systematic project here in the UK to drive down wages, reduce staffing levels (which means increased unemployment), to use the minimum wage as a standard for salary policy, to deny access to higher education.

 

Ordinary people are being pushed into poverty, and poor people cannot afford to pay for healthcare.

 

Unless we defend our NHS and reverse the policies of privatisation and charges most of us shall be without basic healthcare here in the Uk, the home of the most famous health system in the world.

 

Shudder!

 

Did you see the programme about what the workhouses were like tonight? It was absolutely sickening. There were families where a family member had become ill and going in the workhouse meant that you got free healthcare. At that time it said infant mortality was 1 in 5!!

 

I see all the posts everyday on here, calling the poor and those who have recently fell on bad times, 'scroungers', who 'should be working for a living'. I honestly think they would bring the workhouses back and so would Cameron and his cronies.

 

Everyone who calls the poor 'scroungers' should be made to watch that programme.

 

You need to get it, that hard-working families are struggling to make ends meet in this country. Yes, "working".

 

 

I was watching London Mayor's Questions live yesterday and it was shocking. Tory Councillors were calling for suspension of the minimum wage so that businesses could 'expand'. How many of them could manage on even the minimum wage, in London, for heaven's sake?!! Their total lack of care for their fellow men is sickening.

 

With the privatisation of the NHS we are now a step closer to the workhouses. If you voted Tory or LibDem SHAME ON YOU.

Edited June 26, 2013 by Mr Bloom

[Mecky 10]

Nope. You really are desperate today aren't you? This is poor, even for you.

 

Perhaps you'd care to explain your two quotes from below then.

 

No, you just think there is.

 

"Poor people" get free prescriptions, dental care, and much more.

 

 

So how do you explain the fact that everyone gets free prescriptions in Wales and Scotland?