Watson B Â Â 10 #1 Posted May 25, 2013 Clicking through lots of threads on this and other fora (mainly other ones though as this one is well modded) i cant ignore that a percentage of posters advocate or even encourage violence. Its usually for the smallest and most insignificant things too. So it poses to the question. What would make YOU turn violent? I dont mean turn violent and stay that way, hitting people all day every day for no good reason. What i mean is that one incident where youd forget about your values and lose it big style. For me, it would be my kids. If anyone hurt them id go postal. The rest of the time im a quiet, calm and relaxed person who hardly if ever gets upset and really never gets angry. But if anyone hurt my kids id happily end their lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
LeMaquis   10 #2 Posted May 25, 2013 But if anyone hurt my kids id happily end their lives.  Hopefully the prison you ended up in wouldn't be too far from where your kids live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
deaf andy   10 #3 Posted May 25, 2013 Clicking through lots of threads on this and other fora (mainly other ones though as this one is well modded) i cant ignore that a percentage of posters advocate or even encourage violence. Its usually for the smallest and most insignificant things too. So it poses to the question. What would make YOU turn violent? I dont mean turn violent and stay that way, hitting people all day every day for no good reason. What i mean is that one incident where youd forget about your values and lose it big style. For me, it would be my kids. If anyone hurt them id go postal. The rest of the time im a quiet, calm and relaxed person who hardly if ever gets upset and really never gets angry. But if anyone hurt my kids id happily end their lives.  for self defense. and then only enough violence to enable a retreat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
howden   10 #4 Posted May 25, 2013 Clicking through lots of threads on this and other fora (mainly other ones though as this one is well modded) i cant ignore that a percentage of posters advocate or even encourage violence. Its usually for the smallest and most insignificant things too. So it poses to the question. What would make YOU turn violent? I dont mean turn violent and stay that way, hitting people all day every day for no good reason. What i mean is that one incident where youd forget about your values and lose it big style. For me, it would be my kids. If anyone hurt them id go postal. The rest of the time im a quiet, calm and relaxed person who hardly if ever gets upset and really never gets angry. But if anyone hurt my kids id happily end their lives.  Who would you write to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Waldo   96 #5 Posted May 25, 2013 Yeah, I was thinking that too; would the OP be prepared to go to prison, and not see his kids, what kind of example would that set them?  Anyhow, yes, some violence can be appropriate, in certain circumstances (like, we are being attacked, and there is no other option, we need to defend ourselves and our loved ones). Or to assert ourselves in a cool, firm way, not at all backing down; but without 'losing it' and getting to fisticuffs. In fact, I would think all the best professional fighters, are very clear and cool headed and have high levels or self-awareness and self-control.  Have to say, I really don't like all this mass-scale violence we see in the world today; not just with what happened in London the other day, but in general. There is too much tit-for-tat hate and violence in the world; too many people are getting hurt.  I pretty much value all human life the same; I don't see 'british person' or 'muslim' or 'christian' or 'pakistani' or whatever, I just see human beings. It's pretty sad that a lot of people are so identified with their nationality or religion, that they don't see other human beings, as human beings... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #6 Posted May 25, 2013 Clicking through lots of threads on this and other fora (mainly other ones though as this one is well modded) i cant ignore that a percentage of posters advocate or even encourage violence. Its usually for the smallest and most insignificant things too. So it poses to the question. What would make YOU turn violent? I dont mean turn violent and stay that way, hitting people all day every day for no good reason. What i mean is that one incident where youd forget about your values and lose it big style. For me, it would be my kids. If anyone hurt them id go postal. The rest of the time im a quiet, calm and relaxed person who hardly if ever gets upset and really never gets angry. But if anyone hurt my kids id happily end their lives.  It rather depends on the circumstances. I had some try and mug me with a knife in Burngreave once. I smacked him in the head with my crash helmet and nearly killed him.  Violent? For sure. Justified? I certainly thought so. My only regret was I smacked him so hard I had to buy a new crash helmet :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Waldo   96 #7 Posted May 25, 2013 It rather depends on the circumstances. I had some try and mug me with a knife in Burngreave once. I smacked him in the head with my crash helmet and nearly killed him.  Violent? For sure. Justified? I certainly thought so. My only regret was I smacked him so hard I had to buy a new crash helmet :-(  Yep, you're well within your rights there. Just curious, did you report the incident to the police? If so, what did they do/say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Watson B Â Â 10 #8 Posted May 25, 2013 Yeah, I was thinking that too; would the OP be prepared to go to prison, and not see his kids, what kind of example would that set them? Â I use the term "hurt" to define sexual attack, kidnap or murder. If anyone sexually attacked, kidnapped or killed my kids id happily go to prison for my actions. After all, my kids are my life and if someone took that away id see no problem in ending theirs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #9 Posted May 25, 2013 Yep, you're well within your rights there. Just curious, did you report the incident to the police? If so, what did they do/say?  I called the ambulance and the police, the police were not in the slightest bit interested in what I'd done. I think from what they were saying that he was very "known" to them.  As they said it wasn't really worth a court case, as then he had a non zero chance of finding out who I was, and it would have been one man's word against another, so it really got left at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Murphy Jnr   10 #10 Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) I use the term "hurt" to define sexual attack, kidnap or murder. If anyone sexually attacked, kidnapped or killed my kids id happily go to prison for my actions. After all, my kids are my life and if someone took that away id see no problem in ending theirs.  Supposing the attack resulted in their mothers death. Your actions would leave them with no one. Personally i'd have more respect for a person that chanelled his/her anger in a positive way, a charity to aid victims for example. I suspect the children would have more to be proud of to. Edited May 25, 2013 by Murphy Jnr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Watson B Â Â 10 #11 Posted May 25, 2013 Supposing the attack resulted in their mothers death. Your actions would leave them with no one. Personally i'd have more respect for a person that chanelled his/her anger in a positive way, a charity to aid victims for example. I suspect the children would have more to be proud of to. Â Suppose it didnt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #12 Posted May 25, 2013 Yeah, I was thinking that too; would the OP be prepared to go to prison, and not see his kids, what kind of example would that set them? Anyhow, yes, some violence can be appropriate, in certain circumstances (like, we are being attacked, and there is no other option, we need to defend ourselves and our loved ones). Or to assert ourselves in a cool, firm way, not at all backing down; but without 'losing it' and getting to fisticuffs. In fact, I would think all the best professional fighters, are very clear and cool headed and have high levels or self-awareness and self-control.  Have to say, I really don't like all this mass-scale violence we see in the world today; not just with what happened in London the other day, but in general. There is too much tit-for-tat hate and violence in the world; too many people are getting hurt.  I pretty much value all human life the same; I don't see 'british person' or 'muslim' or 'christian' or 'pakistani' or whatever, I just see human beings. It's pretty sad that a lot of people are so identified with their nationality or religion, that they don't see other human beings, as human beings...  Outstanding post Waldo. I agree entirely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...