Bedroom Tax megathread

[poppet2 13]

Age discrimination in the UK is now a priority problem that needs the UN intervention?

 

Like Jeffrey Shaw has said, it shouldn't be a concern to the UN because there's far more evils in the world that they should be sorting out.

 

Er, considering the amount of money these people get paid, they should do as much work and deal with as many problems as possible. Since when have they been restricted to dealing with what some consider non priority problems. Let's get our money's worth.

Edited September 13, 2013 by poppet2

[Happ Hazzard 10]

Do the favellas in Brazil, where Mrs Rolnik comes from, have a "bedroom tax"?

[geared 302]

Er, considering the amount of money these people get paid, they should do as much work and deal with as many problems as possible. Since when have they been restricted to dealing with what some consider non priority problems. Let's get our money's worth.

 

Yes, the amount of money these people are paid and what we get back is a disgrace.

However I can't help feeling they've not even made a start on tackling the bigger world issues, so starting to moan about UK government policy is abit of a poke in the eye IMO.

 

Maybe they should start sorting out the genocidal maniacs in Africa, or Terrorists in the middle east, or the civil war in Syria first??

[poppet2 13]

Yes, the amount of money these people are paid and what we get back is a disgrace.

However I can't help feeling they've not even made a start on tackling the bigger world issues, so starting to moan about UK government policy is abit of a poke in the eye IMO.

 

Maybe they should start sorting out the genocidal maniacs in Africa, or Terrorists in the middle east, or the civil war in Syria first??

 

Impossible! What happens if is it discovered that the weapons/gas etc. are discovered to have come from the USSR, GB, USA etc. even if it is through third parties. That is the business of arm dealing, money comes first.

Isn't Politics interesting?

[geared 302]

What do you mean if? Don't you mean when it is discovered.....and then quietly swept under the carpet and/or spun to remove blame.

 

Afterall isn't half the reason we went into Iraq because the US gave them Anthrax in the 80's or something?

 

Edit:

 

A quick look on google and it looks like everyone and their mother was supplying Iraq with tools, materials, information and engineers for nuclear, chemical and biological warefare.

Edited September 13, 2013 by geared

[poppet2 13]

What do you mean if? Don't you mean when it is discovered.....and then quietly swept under the carpet and/or spun to remove blame.

 

Afterall isn't half the reason we went into Iraq because the US gave them Anthrax in the 80's or something?

 

Edit:

 

A quick look on google and it looks like everyone and their mother was supplying Iraq with tools, materials, information and engineers for nuclear, chemical and biological warefare.

 

Point taken. Better stay on topic of the Bedroom Tax, otherwise the Mods will intervene.

[I1L2T3 10]

Do the favellas in Brazil, where Mrs Rolnik comes from, have a "bedroom tax"?

 

What has that got to do with anything? Would you refuse to be treated by a foreign doctor because the country he/she was from had more people with chronic illness than here?

[geared 302]

I think you've completely misses the point.

 

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Anyway back on track, Labour have now come out and said they will abolish it if they get in power.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-24090772

 

So I guess this is one thing to watch, if they get in will they be able to keep their promise????

The money has gotta come from somewhere right??

Edited September 14, 2013 by geared

[Tradescanthia 10]

I think you've completely misses the point.

 

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Anyway back on track, Labour have now come out and said they will abolish it if they get in power.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-24090772

 

So I guess this is one thing to watch, if they get in will they be able to keep their promise????

The money has gotta come from somewhere right??

 

The top rate of tax is nowhere near high enough. I started work in 1964, the BOTTOM rate was 36%............we paid it and got services. We built the NHS, the Welfare State, in fact all the things the Torys hate.

Torys don't want ordinary Joe Public to enjoy any benefits or rights or a decent job or free healthcare. All they do is bleed people and hand cash back to their rich pals. When the top rate of tax was MUCH higher not many people left our shores, they stayed and worked hard.

Labour will not sort out the probem, Milliband is just a Tory in disguise.

The high earners must pay more tax............simples.

[martyn1949 12]

The top rate of tax is nowhere near high enough. I started work in 1964, the BOTTOM rate was 36%............we paid it and got services. We built the NHS, the Welfare State, in fact all the things the Torys hate.

Torys don't want ordinary Joe Public to enjoy any benefits or rights or a decent job or free healthcare. All they do is bleed people and hand cash back to their rich pals. When the top rate of tax was MUCH higher not many people left our shores, they stayed and worked hard.

Labour will not sort out the probem, Milliband is just a Tory in disguise.

The high earners must pay more tax............simples.

 

Ohhhh, you are a simple soul... nope, anyone earning good money will go abroad, as most musicians and actors, racing drivers etc did when tax rates were ludicrous. Nowadays, with the advent of the internet, NO ONE has to base his business here - he can establish tax domicile anywhere in the world with a low rate, such as Monaco, Gibraltar, Caymans, etc. and still earn money here. Why do you think the Revenue agreed a deal with Mohammed Al Fayed (Harrods owner) that he need not submit accounts, but just pay them a flat £100k a year? Because, dummy, they knew he could just as easily shift his tax domicile to Monaco and pay nothing. While still running Harrods.

 

There is a lot of truth in the saying that Governments treat their common citizens as a bullying husband treats a downtrodden wife: "You WILL do this" etc. Because she and they, usually have no option but to do as they are told. But Govts treat rich businessmen as a rich man treats a new mistress - she is spoiled, treated, made to feel welcome - why? Because she (and they) can GO ELSEWHERE..... Higher taxes mean, in this day and age, less revenue. See Amazon, Starbucks, etc...

[ricgem2002 11]

Ohhhh, you are a simple soul... nope, anyone earning good money will go abroad, as most musicians and actors, racing drivers etc did when tax rates were ludicrous. Nowadays, with the advent of the internet, NO ONE has to base his business here - he can establish tax domicile anywhere in the world with a low rate, such as Monaco, Gibraltar, Caymans, etc. and still earn money here. Why do you think the Revenue agreed a deal with Mohammed Al Fayed (Harrods owner) that he need not submit accounts, but just pay them a flat £100k a year? Because, dummy, they knew he could just as easily shift his tax domicile to Monaco and pay nothing. While still running Harrods.

 

There is a lot of truth in the saying that Governments treat their common citizens as a bullying husband treats a downtrodden wife: "You WILL do this" etc. Because she and they, usually have no option but to do as they are told. But Govts treat rich businessmen as a rich man treats a new mistress - she is spoiled, treated, made to feel welcome - why? Because she (and they) can GO ELSEWHERE..... Higher taxes mean, in this day and age, less revenue. See Amazon, Starbucks, etc...

simple just stop them earning money here

[geared 302]

The top rate of tax is nowhere near high enough. I started work in 1964, the BOTTOM rate was 36%

 

So over your working life the tax rate has significantly dropped??

 

Now you're retired you want it hiked back up to cover your pension and medical bills???

 

Well good luck with that