Introducing parking charges in evenings & Sundays

[metalman 21]

User pays. A fairly simple way of operating.

 

It is, and it will be interesting to see whether 'users' vote with their feet and choose not to use these 'services' the council 'provides' any longer.

 

Remember the saying: if you've got to pay, stay away.

[Penistone999 10]

.

 

It's not about being anti-car, it's about raising revenue. The evening and weekend charges are a pretty cheap flat rate designed not to put drivers off. That would be rather counter productive when the aim is to raise income.

 

So you admit the council target motorists as a way of raising revenue ? Yet you claim the council are not anti motorist.

[alchemist 35]

You can say the same about NCP who run the private car parks and they charge much more than the council. Just see how much money they make out of the motorist, at least the councils fees goes some way to pay for running the city. If you think that the city is anti car support NCP.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Car_Parks

 

hmm, so has NCP suddenly started charging on sundays then?

[Planner1 428]

So you admit the council target motorists as a way of raising revenue ? Yet you claim the council are not anti motorist.

They raise revenue from residents via Council Tax. Are they anti-people?

 

---------- Post added 19-07-2013 at 00:05 ----------

 

hmm, so has NCP suddenly started charging on sundays then?

NCP do charge on Sundays. Always have as far as I can recall.

[Litotes 63]

They raise revenue from residents via Council Tax. Are they anti-people?

 

Irrelevant tosh (again)

[Penistone999 10]

They raise revenue from residents via Council Tax. Are they anti-people?.

 

But you admit the council see motorists as cash cows ,as a way of raising revenue. Its going to be interesting to see what happens now a high court judge has ruled councils cannot use parking permit schemes as a way of raising revenue.

[Planner1 428]

But you admit the council see motorists as cash cows ,as a way of raising revenue. Its going to be interesting to see what happens now a high court judge has ruled councils cannot use parking permit schemes as a way of raising revenue.

 

As I have said, Councils and the Government raise income from different sets of people in different ways. Does that make them anti whoever they are charging for anything?

 

Do you think that every service Government (Central or Local) provides should be free at point of use? Or is it more appropriate that the ones who use the service pay?

 

Councils have always known that the uses to which surpluses from permit income can be put are restricted. It's in the legislation and they are mindful of it.

Edited July 27, 2013 by Planner1

[Litotes 63]

Do you think that every service Government (Central or Local) provides should be free at point of use? Or is it more appropriate that the ones who use the service pay?

 

By your arguement, as I haven't been to my GP for ages, can I get a refund?

 

Also, all those childless couples, can they get money back?

 

No, of course not, they are part of the infrstructure services, as should roads and parking be.

[Uptowngirl 10]

But you admit the council see motorists as cash cows ,as a way of raising revenue. Its going to be interesting to see what happens now a high court judge has ruled councils cannot use parking permit schemes as a way of raising revenue.

 

http://www.newsrt.co.uk/news/a-sign-of-the-times-one-in-four-sheffield-city-centre-shops-closed-777240.html

 

 

MORE than one quarter of shops in Sheffield city centre are standing empty - as city leaders prepare for showdown talks about the new Sevenstone retail quarter.

 

According to new statistics, 26.1 per cent of Sheffield shops are vacant - the sixth worst figure of any city or town in Britain, and a three per cent rise on last year.

 

Sheffield Council insisted the figure is high because of shops which are empty awaiting Sevenstone - but 13.8 per cent of stores are still empty even outside the area covered by the scheme between The Moor, Pinstone Street and Barker’s Pool.

 

Shoppers told The Star they are ‘shocked’ by the number of empty units.

 

Sharon Hibberd, out shopping in the city centre with her sister, said: “The city centre is a bit grim.”

 

Many units have been vacant for years after being bought up for the new retail quarter - but the situation has been compounded by other businesses closing after struggling in the recession.

 

The gloomy picture in Sheffield contrasts sharply with Chesterfield, which recorded a drop in its number of empty shops to just 8.7 per cent.

 

It scored third most highly of 506 places surveyed in the Local Data Company’s study.

[Penistone999 10]

 

Councils have always known that the uses to which surpluses from permit income can be put are restricted. It's in the legislation and they are mindful of it.

 

 

So why do they continue to use the permit scheme to raise revenue then if they know they shouldnt do it. ?

[Planner1 428]

So why do they continue to use the permit scheme to raise revenue then if they know they shouldnt do it. ?

 

Go read the legislation. It allows for the fact that a scheme might produce surplus income and states what it should be spent on.

 

As I have said, Sheffield's permit schemes do not raise enough income via permit sales to cover the administration costs.

[Penistone999 10]

.

 

As I have said, Sheffield's permit schemes do not raise enough income via permit sales to cover the administration costs.

 

Will sheffield council be publishing the figures to prove this . ?