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Royal Oak was the best pub in Chap when I used to go in there but that was 25 years ago!!

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I remember the Belchers running the Oak. Their son, Alwyn, trained our Olympic Gold Medalist boxer, Nicola watsername [cant remember her second name]. He was a tidy boxer himself. I was a Coach and Horses man, Ossie Burkinshaw had it then. Chapeltown thrived in those days, good pubs, good businesses, a proper community. But, times change, often for the worst.

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I remember the Belchers running the Oak. Their son, Alwyn, trained our Olympic Gold Medalist boxer, Nicola watsername [cant remember her second name]. He was a tidy boxer himself. I was a Coach and Horses man, Ossie Burkinshaw had it then. Chapeltown thrived in those days, good pubs, good businesses, a proper community. But, times change, often for the worst.

 

Remember the ossie days very well,i was more of a carousel regular though.

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I remember the Belchers running the Oak. Their son, Alwyn, trained our Olympic Gold Medalist boxer, Nicola watsername [cant remember her second name]. He was a tidy boxer himself. I was a Coach and Horses man, Ossie Burkinshaw had it then. Chapeltown thrived in those days, good pubs, good businesses, a proper community. But, times change, often for the worst.

 

Do you mean Nichola Adams from Leeds?

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To Let sign is now up outside the pub. Hopefully someone will snap it up soon.

 

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Dave.

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I don't think pubs are particularly attractive or safe places nowadays. They reflect how society has changed and the only community involvement in many of them is when druggies do their deals there.

 

The tough stance illustrated by one land lord is a good step but if it were to catch on then the police would intervene to protect human rights and allow the violent yobs and dealers back in.

 

PC Britain for you.

 

Then again would anyone want to be sharing a bar with the under 30s who get fuelled up and leg less even before they go to town? And that's just the women.

 

And finally ................. I was asked by a complete stranger young enough to be my son, what I was doing there. In the pub! So much for community then. I felt obliged to leave for my own safety.

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The tough stance illustrated by one land lord is a good step but if it were to catch on then the police would intervene to protect human rights and allow the violent yobs and dealers back in.

 

PC Britain for you.

 

It's ironic that on a thread complaining about pubs closing, someone who seems to have had quite a lot to drink before 3pm manages to post the biggest pile of rubbish so far. Human rights to allow drug-dealing? You must be on summat 80% proof.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with pubs closing. It's pure supply and demand. If people don't want pubs they close and the anti-social behaviour that comes out of them disappears or stays indoors as people drink there. There are still plenty of decent pubs where people go to socialise and not get drunk or doped up. They'll survive.

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To Let sign is now up outside the pub. Hopefully someone will snap it up soon.

 

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Dave.

 

Not viable, I looked into a very similar pub not so long ago and worked out I would have to sell 20 pints of beer/lager per hour 7 days a week to just break even. So a pub now unless freehold will never really work.

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Chap used to be a good sensible night out.

must have changed a lot since i was there.

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It's ironic that on a thread complaining about pubs closing, someone who seems to have had quite a lot to drink before 3pm manages to post the biggest pile of rubbish so far. Human rights to allow drug-dealing? You must be on summat 80% proof.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with pubs closing. It's pure supply and demand. If people don't want pubs they close and the anti-social behaviour that comes out of them disappears or stays indoors as people drink there. There are still plenty of decent pubs where people go to socialise and not get drunk or doped up. They'll survive.

 

I know what you mean (don't mind pubs closing) I don't mind Libraries and Sports Facilities closing, if there's no demand they'll go!

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Do you mean Nichola Adams from Leeds?

 

Thats her, I spotted Alwyn on Look North, he did a brief interview.

 

---------- Post added 14-01-2013 at 00:18 ----------

 

Remember the ossie days very well,i was more of a carousel regular though.

 

I remember the Carousel when it was the Midland Hotel. It was as busy as a mortuary, with the same atmosphere. The Landlord was Stuart Earnshaw. He had a VERY big dog, it had once crapped in one of the rooms and the pile was like a pile of horse****. We couldn't stop laughing, the dog had a real smug look on his face. :hihi:

 

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I know what you mean (don't mind pubs closing) I don't mind Libraries and Sports Facilities closing, if there's no demand they'll go!

 

I think libraries and sports facilities are more important than a pub, unless the pub has a historical interest like the Carbrook or the Old Queens Head.

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Hello to you all.I too was a regular down Chapeltown and its various pubs.

Im 51 now and ive started to go into town again.If you go on a pub crawl which i do,you can get cheaper beers,avoid the idiots and have a very good night out.

Bessemer,Museum,Weatherspoons,Henrys,Lloyds,Leopold sq and Maggie Mays etc.

The only down side is the taxi fare home.But if there are 3 or 4 of you,it isnt too bad.

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