ghost rider   10 #181 Posted January 20, 2013 Its also worth noting that we should keep some of sheffields heritage instead of eradicating it for the next generation.A lot of children are interested in sheffields history as i was as a child,i loved history it was my favourite subject.Our teacher was very enthusiastic and used to take us to old buildings.I remember going to shepherds wheel and seeing it working.Its not going to be the same for the children if all we can show them is a picture and say this is where this building used to be.Weve lost too much of our heritage partly due to the luftwaffe and SCC,it has to stop!. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   566 #182 Posted January 20, 2013 Again why was it listed?  Beat's me why it is listed given that the definition for grade II listing is for buildings that are nationally important and of special interest.  http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about-listed-buildings/  Jessops "nationally important"? Never was, never will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tbtc   10 #183 Posted January 20, 2013 I shudder to think what York would look like had their CC followed the SCC ethos of town planning and architecture  Yes - the old Jessops Hospital is one of the top ten places to visit for Japanese tourists in the UK isn't it.  ---------- Post added 20-01-2013 at 17:24 ----------  How does the university having to spend an extra 8 million effect you.Just wondering.  I want this city to improve. Attracting a world class facility like this will help that (and attract a lot of quality).  Forcing the University to build a smaller structure to accommodate the need to preserve a bit of Edwardian Hospital will hamper that.  Yet this small facility will cost them an extra eight million pounds. Does that seem right? Is that a price worth paying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ghost rider   10 #184 Posted January 20, 2013 Beat's me why it is listed given that the definition for grade II listing is for buildings that are nationally important and of special interest. http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about-listed-buildings/  Jessops "nationally important"? Never was, never will be.  So park hill flats are of national importance and,castle house.We have a building at work thats listed and were probably the only ones in sheffield that know that so its hardly of national importance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wardsbitter   10 #185 Posted January 20, 2013 Are the two mutually incompatible? It seems-again from what I've read- that Jessops could be kept and the university get the world class facility it needs and which would be beneficial to the city. Nobody has ever regarded Jessops as a tourist attraction.  Like you I want to see the city progress, as it has done, thanks to a great degree because of the universities but I don't want to see Sheffield regress, again by disregarding part, a valuable part of its scanty heritage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ghost rider   10 #186 Posted January 20, 2013 Yes - the old Jessops Hospital is one of the top ten places to visit for Japanese tourists in the UK isn't it. ---------- Post added 20-01-2013 at 17:24 ----------   I want this city to improve. Attracting a world class facility like this will help that (and attract a lot of quality).  Forcing the University to build a smaller structure to accommodate the need to preserve a bit of Edwardian Hospital will hamper that.  Yet this small facility will cost them an extra eight million pounds. Does that seem right? Is that a price worth paying? Attract a lot of quality,quality of what.Do we seriously think this is going to kickstart manufacturing in sheffield again.Highly unlikely,most of the students will probably leave sheffield and take their new skills to another part of the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tbtc   10 #187 Posted January 20, 2013 Are the two mutually incompatible? It seems-again from what I've read- that Jessops could be kept and the university get the world class facility it needs  They could co-exist (just with a smaller University facility that costs an extra eight million quid).  Attract a lot of quality,quality of what.Do we seriously think this is going to kickstart manufacturing in sheffield again.Highly unlikely,most of the students will probably leave sheffield and take their new skills to another part of the world.  Of quality engineering jobs - like the Advanced Manufacturing Research Centre (which is where it is because of the engineering/ manufacturing talent that we have in Sheffield).  That should be the future that we aim for (rather than just a NEXT and an IKEA). I want Sheffield to attract the kind of jobs that you get in the Advanced Manufacturing Research Centre instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jimmyt715   10 #188 Posted January 20, 2013 If its not attractive why was it listed? You could actually have both.  Are all listed buildings attractive .? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ghost rider   10 #189 Posted January 20, 2013 Are all listed buildings attractive .?  If you take park hill flats and castle house then definately no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jimmyt715 Â Â 10 #190 Posted January 20, 2013 If you take park hill flats and castle house then definately no. Â Exactly! But I've gotta confess I love the look of park hill flats dunno why..spose it's like marmite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ghost rider   10 #191 Posted January 20, 2013 They could co-exist (just with a smaller University facility that costs an extra eight million quid).   Of quality engineering jobs - like the Advanced Manufacturing Research Centre (which is where it is because of the engineering/ manufacturing talent that we have in Sheffield).  That should be the future that we aim for (rather than just a NEXT and an IKEA). I want Sheffield to attract the kind of jobs that you get in the Advanced Manufacturing Research Centre instead. Its a good thing but i dont think its going to be the saviour of sheffields unemployed, its a specialist industry that requires highly intelligent people.Id have got excited if it was going to be something that gets sheffields unemployed working.I still dont think its enough to warrant demolishing a listed building.  ---------- Post added 20-01-2013 at 18:04 ----------  Exactly! But I've gotta confess I love the look of park hill flats dunno why..spose it's like marmite.  Yes it is all about personal choice and thats good that were all different.I liked the art deco factory that was on penistone road and the tinsley towers but others hated them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tony   10 #192 Posted January 20, 2013 Why should the university be forced to spend all of this extra money for the sake of a couple of thousand people signing a petition?  Because it was listed when the University bought it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...