Wardsbitter   10 #169 Posted January 20, 2013 the conservation of historic buildings is surprisingly low priority compared to other envirionmental issues with a lot of people. Therefore it ranks low with politicians because there ain't any votes in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tbtc   10 #170 Posted January 20, 2013 Never been any suggestion about saving the facade. My understanding is that the finance had been allocated and a use identified for the Edwardian section without needing its demolition.  The University can build around it, but it'll be a smaller facility (therefore bringing fewer jobs etc) and will cost them an extra eight million quid.  So that'd cost everyone who signed the petition £4,000. Hope they gave their credit card details when they signed.  ---------- Post added 20-01-2013 at 16:34 ----------  8 million pounds is a drop in the ocean to Sheffield University. They are raking it in. They are an excellent facililty and should be encouraged. Sheffield has always welcomed and been a fantastic place for students, that's also why so many people choose Sheffieild University and never want to leave. Sheffield University should acknowledge this by protecting Sheffield's heritage.  Sadder than this, is the city's treasure - the Victorian museum on Ecclesall Road that I have been informed the university was responsible for and let go to ruin, that we have now completely lost, I believe.  Why should the university be forced to spend all of this extra money for the sake of a couple of thousand people signing a petition?  Easy to spend other people's money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ghost rider   10 #171 Posted January 20, 2013 The University can build around it, but it'll be a smaller facility (therefore bringing fewer jobs etc) and will cost them an extra eight million quid. So that'd cost everyone who signed the petition £4,000. Hope they gave their credit card details when they signed.  ---------- Post added 20-01-2013 at 16:34 ----------   Why should the university be forced to spend all of this extra money for the sake of a couple of thousand people signing a petition?  Easy to spend other people's money.  How does the university having to spend an extra 8 million effect you.Just wondering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wardsbitter   10 #172 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) The University can build around it, but it'll be a smaller facility (therefore bringing fewer jobs etc) and will cost them an extra eight million quid. So that'd cost everyone who signed the petition £4,000. Hope they gave their credit card details when they signed.  What about the space issue? Some sort of open space required by the design of the new building from what I've read.  But we are drifting away from the core issue. Professional in house planners aren't happy and felt that they should speak out. Precendents could be set for the future and that could be detrimental to the city. Edited January 20, 2013 by Wardsbitter WORD MISSED Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   596 #173 Posted January 20, 2013 the conservation of historic buildings is surprisingly low priority compared to other envirionmental issues with a lot of people. Therefore it ranks low with politicians because there ain't any votes in it.  Oh come on - Jessops is hardly what most people would class as "historic" - famous events associated with Jessops is a big fat zero, and Edwardian ain't that old (nor particularly pleasing on the eye). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Bloom   10 #174 Posted January 20, 2013  Why should the university be forced to spend all of this extra money for the sake of a couple of thousand people signing a petition?  Easy to spend other people's money.  Apparently, NOT as easy as to destroy heritage for commercial gain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   596 #175 Posted January 20, 2013 Apparently, NOT as easy as to destroy heritage for commercial gain.  Yeah, we've inherited a pretty ugly, hard to convert building noted for nothing much that very few people would be sad to see the back of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wardsbitter   10 #176 Posted January 20, 2013 Oh come on - Jessops is hardly what most people would class as "historic" - famous events associated with Jessops is a big fat zero, and Edwardian ain't that old (nor particularly pleasing on the eye).  True no Royal Birth's but an interesting historic report on it commissioned by the university. Then there's English Heritage's stance.  ---------- Post added 20-01-2013 at 16:46 ----------  Yeah, we've inherited a pretty ugly, hard to convert building noted for nothing much that very few people would be sad to see the back of.  Who brought Park Hill into it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mumkin   10 #177 Posted January 20, 2013 I shudder to think what York would look like had their CC followed the SCC ethos of town planning and architecture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   596 #178 Posted January 20, 2013 I shudder to think what York would look like had their CC followed the SCC ethos of town planning and architecture  What a stupid comparison. York's architecture is of international significance and much of York's prosperity depends on tourist income.  What is Jessops doing for Sheffield - apart from getting in the way of a building that will add to Sheffield's prosperity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Bloom   10 #179 Posted January 20, 2013 Yeah, we've inherited a pretty ugly, hard to convert building noted for nothing much that very few people would be sad to see the back of.  Personally speaking, I've got some very unpleasant memories associated with that building, but it's not about 'sentimentality'. It's about in twenty or so years time when the city looks like an absolute hell hole with no character whatsoever, that we'll look back at old pictures of Jessop's and think 'why the hell did we allow that to replaced with what's there now?' Just because as a building/era of architecture it might not be particularly fashionable or desirable at the present moment, it IS a decent example of architecture of the time, and I think will be appreciated as such in years to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wardsbitter   10 #180 Posted January 20, 2013 Jessops is part of what they call cityscape. Each area has its own type of heritage ie our remaining metal trades buildings.Ugly, often poorly built and maintained and often under appreciated.But typical of the cities history and heritage.  Again why was it listed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...